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bormanb wrote:

Colleagues want on Preston DM160 buy Shimano ULTEGRA 4500 or 5500. Three times took a this subject confused iai?i. What borrow? Baytraner particularly not need. Liked purely superficially XSB and XTC in the black and XSC in silver. Advise what borrow. And will have whether in them bearings keep trotting out?

Edited bormanb (Today 12 :13: 45)


XTB, XSB (not Si4 which) - there is no ShP on video and vedomom gear is. On leads currencies can be put.
XTS, XSC - there is no ShP on a premier gear is. Can be put.

Tbilisi - baytraner. (XTs)
’ s - rapid Friction clutch. (XSs)

On shpulyu 4500 shaking its less bekinga, than on 5500. Reel same assessment.

Questioning or not? Ah themselves solve. Worse not will accurately (costs small), but have many and without this work.

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майк wrote:

. I OK not say, that not believe. Simply not rebuffed, here is and surprised :dontknow:

One of the best terminations. Very greater resource, even excess the tenacity.
Compare construction with those, that saw on various Chinese. The difference - as between Bourgault understands this and with a stick-kopalkoy :glasses: But even in some crappy Kitana is a hard-on virtually such a same clutch is.

Last edited by G R E Y (Dec 22 2013 16:34:31)

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Oleg_GOR wrote:

. Questioning or not? Ah themselves solve.

The absence of bearing limits resource work, and substantially. Moreover, move harder. Of course, questioning)

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Oleg_GOR wrote:

XTB, XSB (not Si4 which) - there is no ShP on video and vedomom gear is. On leads currencies can be put.
XTS, XSC - there is no ShP on a premier gear is. Can be put.

Tbilisi - baytraner. (XTs)
’ s - rapid Friction clutch. (XSs)

On shpulyu 4500 shaking its less bekinga, than on 5500. Coils same assessment.

Questioning or not? Ah themselves solve. Worse not will accurately (costs small), but have many and without this work.

Pick up volumes K XSC 4500 Number bearing not allow and how many he is worth? Reverse very not the problem?

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bormanb wrote:

Well, I'll have XSC 4500 Number bearing not allow and how many he is worth? Reverse very not the problem?


Several pages ago, and size, and different photos installations, and who where and what ’. Precisely for this center of the spool. Questioning not difficult and not long.

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726

Importantly excess details that would not remained.

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Вячеслав У-У wrote:

Biomaster SW '13 4,000 in Japan based company is worth 8300r. + hard time delivering. In the European the catalogue nothing such a there is no.

There is, and long. This BiomasterFB. And clutch is managed.

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Volodey2007 wrote:

The main thing excess details that would not remained.

If excess details not remained, means something made not so. :crazyfun:

I have remained one. Photo in post 608. :dontknow:

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G R E Y wrote:

There are, and long. This BiomasterFB.

And would so not wrote, have them different corps, different number of balls and so weight, as a consequence. I.e. differences there is. And most importantly - not can Biomaster 13goda for Japan copy, European Biomaster. Usually contrary with deteriorating for Europe. European model - previous. Japan’s.

Last edited by Vadkh (Dec 22 2013 18:35:19)

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Vadkh wrote:

A would so not wrote.

And I write) Beauty differences, coil the same.

Vadkh wrote:

. And most importantly - not can Biomaster 13goda for Japan copy, European Biomaster. Usually contrary with deteriorating for Europe.

Ox, perishing me these stereotypes) this purpose establish not can be, because not can be never (with))

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On the European market there is coil even better 13BiomasterSW - SustainFG. In fact, this 13BiomasterSW with rotor higher class. Analoga on Japanese market there is no.

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G R E Y wrote:

A I write) Beauty differences, the coil the same.

Different corps, different number of bearings, the lack of X-ship in model SW and the availability of his in freshwater model Biomastera - this cosmetics? That then is criterion differences models from one line of.
SW.

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Better you me tell, with what you took, that have them different corps? And that have 13BioSV there is no X-stud?
http://fservice.shimano.co.jp/part/pdf/03160.pdf
http://fish.shimano-eu.com/media/fishin … 773621.pdf

Last edited by G R E Y (Dec 22 2013 19:53:02)

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G R E Y wrote:

analoga on Japanese market there is no.

Japanese Twin Power 11 Twin Power
Custeyn clone his. And steep Vanquish, continuation of Tvina MG, so as Corps a magnesium and balls on more than have Tvina and Susteyna.

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G R E Y wrote:

Better you me tell, with what you took, that have them different corps? And that have 13BioSV there is no X-stud?


I exile nedaremno uploaded, are looking and read. Have them another system written GF Gear. The availability of second bearing not the only a sign of X-ship. The It's with Japanese the catalog of the.
http://s6.uploads.ru/t/iIAnb.jpg

Last edited by Vadkh (Dec 22 2013 20:42:52)

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Vadkh wrote:

Japanese Twin Power 11 Twin Power .Custeyn clone his.

You badly mistaken. Utterly different coils - different corps, DC reluctance, SOEs and camping on D.

Vadkh wrote:

. I exile nedaremno uploaded, are looking and read.

You can operate Internet, and I - background companies Simano for their trebuie sa aiba certificat CC. As you think, whose source of information reassuringly certain)

Last edited by G R E Y (Dec 22 2013 20:03:53)

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737

Means you're saying, that Biomastera this same assessment coils not despite different corps and other pizzazling.
http://s7.uploads.ru/7FYSy.jpg
http://s6.uploads.ru/IBv2K.jpg

G R E Y wrote:

you badly mistaken. Utterly different coils - different corps, DC reluctance, SOEs and camping on D.

Where logic.

G R E Y wrote:

you can operate Internet, and I - special. Background companies Simano for their trebuie sa aiba certificat CC. As you think, whose source of information more true)

Share information, only not say that she secret :D :flag:

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Vadkh

You uploaded a picture of an 10 Biomaster SW, with 13 st this indeed different coils.

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полотенчик wrote:

Vadkh

You uploaded a picture of an 10 Biomaster SW, with 13 st this indeed different coils.

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G R E Y wrote:

Vyacheslav Wu-Wu wrote (and):

Biomaster SW '13 4,000 in Japan based company is worth 8300r. + hard time delivering. In the European the catalog nothing such a there is no.

There is, and long. This BiomasterFB. And clutch is managed.

Dima, I uploaded derzhitsya 13 Biomastera and Biomastera FB. And conversation for 13 was. And not more.

Last edited by Vadkh (Dec 22 2013 20:45:57)

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Vadkh wrote:

Dima, I uploaded derzhitsya 13 Biomastera and Biomastera FB. And conversation for 13 was. And not more.


http://fishing.shimano.co.jp/product/reel/3341 - in 13 st there is no even modification 6000HG.

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полотенчик wrote:

http://fishing.shimano.co.jp/product/reel/3341 - in 13 st there is no even modification 6000HG.

Yes Shiller wrong, derzhitsya 10Biomastera. Of mixed up, with 13, admit. And X-ship and there is a. But would still, that 10 and 13 those more quite not FB.

Last edited by Vadkh (Dec 22 2013 21:32:01)

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Vadkh wrote:

. Yes Shiller wrong, derzhitsya 10Biomastera. Of mixed up, with 13, admit. And X-ship and there is a. But would still, that 10 and 13 those more quite not FB.

See, you are interested in coils) Let us, consider. Secrets here there is no.
Now Simano uzhalis in assortment coils. Crisis, however. Have the next "Designer", from which gather all coils Simano middle level, speech about spinningovykhthe coil in size 4,000 and higher.
Then with domestic mounting to one from horns. He overall and for 13Naski, and for all Bio, and for 11Tvina. This same rotor a hard-on and on BioFB, and on 13BioSV. On SusteynFG, too, a hard-on this rotor, but in more looked like and easy material of C4. With big likely such same rotor will on 14 Tvine, if he will emerge. So same have a new rotor Magnumlayt, but this "nesilovoy" rotor, fideristov hardly interesuyuschiy.
Rightly move further. Corps. 13Naski sits in KompaktBodi, some a new "class." Apparently, will evolve. Ultegra - fully plastic Corps, such same has and a new Tekhnium FD. All reel of C4 +, too, sit in this abroad, but special Christmas from carbon fiber of C4 +.
The next Corps - Corps 11Bio. He plastic, but with hard a metal a lid-toe episode. This overall Corps and for 11EksensBB, and for 11Bio, and for BioFB, and for 13BioSV, and for SusteynFG. All differences wear cosmetic nature of the.
The next Corps - 11Tvin. Fully metal. Strange and the dropdown from a common logic Corps. Perhaps, 14Tvin we so and not will see.
Middle class Simano on this ends. No bodies and rotors more there is no. Excluding a bit strange rotor EksensBB, slightly simplistic and slightly less size of.
Mechanisms all these coils - quite long the. Under the entire similarity, they differ materials and prohibitions. In our case, 11Bio has a simple's massive wheel leading armored glass). Roughly the same, that Ultegra and even Nazca. BioFB has another wheel - kholodnokovannoe, with the cover. The same CF, which you mistakenly called GF. It same a hard-on and in SusteyneFG. His same Stubbed and in 13BioSV. Not disappearing same good, when it is time issue a new marine Bio. Here is so on Japanese market emerged coil, already couple of years the existing on the European.
Myths about exceptionalism Japanese market, or American, or about impairment European - it is time forget. All these markets for Simano are important, crisis on the planet. And coils gather adjusted for regional needs. To example, barbarians-Europeans in Bio need to particularly durable wheel SOEs - arrive at. Then it same use to anyone under rejuvenation marine series of for the Japanese market. And so on.
Thus, view need every separately weighed coil, without peg to the market. On any market can these take place the coil with very attractive a combination of prices and workers characteristics.

Last edited by G R E Y (Dec 23 2013 22:45:17)

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Sergei me utterly not want lock antlers with you on your field. But why deny obvious things. Corps have 13SW and FB all ??? different. Have them seals on different sides. If to take one part of corps from 13SW and one part of from FB and the of them not muster one Corps. Have them different DC reluctance. I not climb in him in razor, but and number of bearings have them different. Wasn these signs of not enough.

G R E Y wrote:

That so on Japanese market emerged coil, already couple of years the existing on the European.

Personally I believe, that 13 Biomaster SV standards - obvious continuation of 10 Biomastera SV standards. 10 BiomasterSV already has the other Corps. Even on Japanese market simply Biomaster and Biomaster SV standards have different corps.
I becomes to recognize their mistakes, as was in case with presence of seed X-ship. You must admit...... and you its when you're wrong in this issue. Why on unusual lock antlers.

Last edited by Vadkh (Dec 23 2013 12:15:13)

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Vadkh wrote:

. Why on unusual lock antlers.

Here is and me so seems) A loath will find 13BioSV5000PG, Open his, will find on abroad labeling
http://i.piccy.info/i9/02d9ad10fe711440d5241e760860b717/1387788007/48843/631429/Foto_22__800.jpghttp://i.piccy.info/a3/2013-12-23-08-40/i9-5637398/800x413-r/i.gif
And here is this wheel
http://i.piccy.info/i9/b32184e7c5cc8c4744220b1ae5ba9f74/1387788197/18475/631429/Foto_19__500.jpghttp://i.piccy.info/a3/2013-12-23-08-43/i9-5637415/393x424-r/i.gif
Together compare DC reluctance)

Last edited by G R E Y (Dec 23 2013 12:43:47)

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! Mike.
Here is obgonka size 6,000
http://i.piccy.info/i9/67866614b4d55573b8c532452ab9c6f7/1387788989/88280/631429/6000.jpghttp://i.piccy.info/a3/2013-12-23-08-56/i9-5637474/800x499-r/i.gif

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G R E Y wrote:

and here is this wheel
http://i.piccy.info/i9/b32184e7c5cc8c4744220b1ae5ba9f74/1387788197/18475/631429/Foto_19__500.jpghttp://i.piccy.info/a3/2013-12-23-08-43/i9-5637415/393x424-r/i.gif


Compared http://s7.uploads.ru/tB5DK.jpgЯpony write, that in Biomastere a new leading gear shaft from Tvina SV standards. There currencies steel. Perhaps lie. :crazyfun:
Sergei, without indices within corps, tell please far over miraculously propeller which there is trade mark for luxiory and there is no on SV standards. http://s7.uploads.ru/h2PzS.jpg
http://s7.uploads.ru/oxqCB.jpg
Knowing Japanese the accuracy of, as you thinking have them on assembly assembly-line work these details corps go in these
Because, that have them one labeling (with your words).

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Are looking, how many seats on Forum it took a repeat of one and the same. HMAS Success.
On SOEs - still times you say, this one and the same detail. Reduce promarkirovannaya in service expenditure. , vai SOEs on BioFB or SusteynFG - will come the same couple, that and under increasingly for 13BioSV. Me will come any from three coils on replacement couples - I open service program, gonna shove code any of three coils, and for each of them few one and the same couple of. Not know, as still you to explain. Want, to they were different? Ah, let will, sake of God.
On body. For size 2,500 - all screws they open it up with hand a metal paws, in plastic Corps. For size 4,000\ 5,000 increasingly so same, but there is still one propeller - with hand plastic corps in metal lid firmly-'s foot. He you and is pushing with bribery.
The size of the 6,000 and more until not met, in Ukraine them even not zavozili officially.

Last edited by G R E Y (Dec 23 2013 14:42:35)

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Cergey, then why they in the catalogue utterly another SOEs show. There currencies leading armored glass) steel and itself gear shaft dyural with black the cover. I same not took this with ceiling. If not is difficult, chirkni in thing he said was Shimanu if will be able let specialists will explain.

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We are talking about size 4,000\ 5,000, here under propeller pens, presumably, are worth steel crowns, and himself currencies with rather incredible compound gear manufactured by East one trivial issue. Perhaps, in a larger size a hard-on couple, that you see on site, with steel shaft. Hit this coil in this size - me get this straight this moment.
Ask Japanese futile. For them European, of course, primate, but somewhere level lemur. Schyutka. Europeans same will open the same an interactive program, that and I, and reciprocate in accordance with provided by there information.

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750

Winter I'll pick some up a new SV standards, makes to our umeltsam - Let him go shelled. Get a picture of this and d sell. Such a the coil think not go really stale. 200 bucks for it not the price.

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