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Report for 29 June - as them. Moscow Dmitrovsky District, Moscow Oblast district.

For day before fishing closer to by the evening I made batter's box now from prikormki that mixed previously and rasfasoval on 25 are unaware vedram, in this mixture of enters a minor grinding maize, pea plants, mixture of of grain, straw, bran + added the remnants of apartment, oat straw, chechevichnoy flour + added M3 Grant tanks oat flakes + 2-M3 Grant tanks manki + Molochar 21% 450 maize meal groats + with past year the outstanding Cocoa take some quik + a bit curiously spices, which likes white fish, that would create gentle not strongly enable and batter on nose smells. All of this deal I kind of beef on equally split and rasfasoval on two vedram press flat mops down and very well stirred shuropovertom + separately leave several zhmeney a mixture feedmill (White fish and karpovyy) - the price scale grinding which described higher (roughly 30kg) + softer hay (15kg) totals slightly more 500r + oat flakes, traditional grits-- grits and vast - roughly still + 250-300r and moreover 750-850 rub for 50-65l perfect a mixture not ustupayuschey expensive prikormkam, which under zameshivanie border, a slightly whether not in 3-4 times.
With the evening the day I made a sauce 8-drinkable prikormki-a mixture, that described higher for themselves and father with adding a small number of large tables some dried bread and barley and pea plants protertogo through a sieve + several zhmeney feedmill. The bait I have was maggot, night crawlers, the worm. Marshal we in 3: 30 morning until gathered and had gone already was the beginning of 5 th and on place where we gathered to fish we were already in half of 5 th. Want say that people with tents and fishermen was all, virtually all was smaller, but on our favorite place fortunately, which advised Dumchev Andrei nor whom not was. Have spread chair, brought together place it (enleve on one thing – have father two), pomerilsya (dream the distance 32-35m and the depth of roughly 5m) snap method noose in loop decided to put KMT from fishing line of yours 0.25mm - actual dozen, and real where the 0.27mm with tug ropes 0.14 mm (many zatsepov so such dimetr - 65cm) and hook 14 th numbers. On distance 32-35 meters I put it right about 15-17 feeders 30ml any seafood brunch Kristall with to over zabrosami with-sum game 100-120, forth after zakorma of waiting already about 5-8 mines with the feeding trough 30 ml. AXC F2 any seafood brunch. With 5 – 7 morning nor any poklevok not was, but have father in half of 8 th the pourer oblyuboval for decent podleschik and he proved in sadke. With 7.30 am – 9 hours morning managed to capture only several okushkov with smallholder sudachkom. In the beginning of 10 morning from for trees has looked out the sun and the beginning of very strongly beating down, and here I decided to still times promeryatsya, and found more blizhniyu ponravivsheyusya point in district 18-24 meters. Has spread 5 oparikov and works, not mellow put an udilishche on stand as the whip here same began show and signal, that who i.e. on how late, take out a with prelichnym resistance and this was a golden and very the Beautiful Pelecus cultratus. The second impose in this same point and such same outcome, Pelecus cultratus lack the pourer under fall. The third impose and again Pelecus cultratus avidly and svirepa Takes the pourer on the summer of. Следующие 3-4 заброса с промахами (были такие же поклевки, но рыба как бы промахивалась и подсечь не удавалась), так как одна за одной пошли яхты, теплоходы и катера.5-й заброс не дал ни какого результата так как я понял, что рыба ушла и испугалась не переставающихся звуков моторов в течение 5-9 минут пока я менял поводок и оснастку ПГ которые начали очень рьяно перекручиваться и захлестываться.6-й заброс и при падение ни каких поклевок не было и я решил выждать минут 5-8 , через минуты 5-7 я медленно приподнимаю удилище к верху как обычно, как бы играюсь насадкой нежно и осторожно приподнимая ее от то дна, а вдруг рыба рядом, но она не заметила насадку, и медленно, и очень осторожно прокручиваю катушку, и тут хлыст свернулся в бублик, и я почувствовал очень серьезное- бойкое сопротивление на том конце , как назло мимо прошел очень массивный и грозный катер, который создал очень серьезные и высокие волны при которых было очень сложно вываживать как оказалось очень сильного и напористого леща под 2 кг, который очень долго и упорно не хотел идти в подсачек , то появлялся на поверхности воды то снова уходил в на дно, минуты через 2-3 с расслабленным фрикционом при очень серьезных волнах мне все же удалось вытащить этого красавца под 2кг, который дал мне серьезно попотеть и понервничать. After such a amazingly subtle vyvazhivaniya and shot of adrenaline I decided to do still impose and minutes through 4 in podsacheke proved big a dace. Next zabrosov not was, so as decided get out of here and flock home, because as was very feel hot and we very wowed. On road home we asked around fishermen which have very a serious and hilarious for me artillery types and donok with arrangement of around the Bank in numbers to 6 ?o) and no one nor what not was even poklevok, only have one Fisherwoman are have which was 4 fidera caught minutes 5 ago one ill-a white bream.

In Holiday with 15-29 June (6 fishing trips) was been seized about 15-17 kg fish and of them about 10 Pelecus cultratus, that me very hit surprised and in, too, time this aren, so as enleve its the first time and on each rabalke was catching on 2-3 ?o and each time she Takes on the summer of under padanie defence wakes up aggressivity, and the entire here fish in such a heat proved in point in district 18-25 flushed from Bank and more less klevala with 8 – 10.30 hours morning when the sun the beginning of very strongly beating down and exits from for trees.

Fishing VERY pleased And need to think it over THAT ON THIS WEB Processors PLUS NOT VSE, MY catches WILL grow up in AS And skills, WHEREOF And MUMBAI genuinely wish)

No tail, nor scale!

Last edited by JeWgIeNiJ (Jul 30 2013 11:02:29)

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Report for 7 July - as them. Moscow Dmitrovsky District, Moscow Oblast district.

Прикормка-подготовка такая же как и в предыдущем моем отчете выше, только в пшено-гороховую кашу я решил добавить сваренную перловку, и данную смесь (пшено-гороховую кашу с перловкой) перетер через сито, и разделил, одну часть я добавил в сухую прикормку (мелкий помомл+смесь комбикорма) , а другую я решил использовать как отдельный компонент, брал сначала отдельную часть смеси из каш (не то что с мелким помолом) и добавлял в кормушку (совсем чуть чуть), а той частью в которой присутствует мелкий помол и смесь комбикорма (данная смесь более сухая и хорошо распадающееся – практически как пыль) я делал пробки с боков. The that concerns osnastok, then in this time I used “HELlCOPTER and two knots ” (Helicopter and two knot), as and Pater Noster (disambiguation) well themselves shows on reservoirs with slime. Many think, that with bezotvodnym connection such as in “HELlCOPTER and two knots ” (Helicopter and two knot) tooling will be confused and vast, but all not so, in my case this tackle nor never not'm confused and can with certainty say, that“ HELlCOPTER and two knots ” way as not strange less Paternostera. Snastochka me very liked, so as such method fastening fishing line of yours (method nakidki), which gives without otvodnoe connecting allows put a leash on a after the fall of the trough on bottom vystilatsya on direct lines and ceasing respectively it turns out in prikormochnoy zone. So same this tooling universal as me seems, expense of without otvodnogo compounds ceasing slowly falls on bottom and those really attracts fish, which held in the top of layers water, and expense of vystilaniya defence wakes up aggressivity on direct lines with prikormochnym stain gives by fish quickly find the pourer. Hook applicable 12 th numbers. Povodkovaya the fishing line is 0.14. Length the leash 65-70 see The distance industrialized fishing 20-25 flushed. The distance was already zaklipsovana with past times and with probivkoy trawling I decided not bother, so as catching on same place. Made as and rely mass zakorm (15-20 feeders Chameleon Cristal 70 gr 30ml). With clean-6.30 poklevok not was. Where the in district 7 hours morning under perezabrose bait took on the summer of Pelecus cultratus. The next impose and on the hook for decent perch, so same as and Pelecus cultratus took on the summer of under fall. Minutes 20-30 poklevok not was. Where the in district the beginning of 9 th under perezaabrose bait as and in the first time was knitting Pelecus cultratus. The next 4-6 zabrosov with bogeys and I decided to stick a not 5-7 oparikov, and already 3 and with crocheted 14 th numbers. After as I reversed the and put hook on less, and became stick a 3 moldy worm the deal matter on own manner. With starters 9 th until the beginning of 11 morning was been seized me still 9 chekhoney and with dozen profit bass, and have father only 2 Pelecus cultratus. Just was captured 12 chekhoney and where the slightly more 10-fringes bass.
Fishing the hugely exasperated, albeit not have fallen are decent copies of in Roles podleschikov and little slapping.

Anyone reflecting luck and No tail, nor scale!

Last edited by JeWgIeNiJ (Jul 30 2013 11:02:44)

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Report for 14 July - as them. Moscow Dmitrovsky District, Moscow Oblast district.

For day before fishing I decided to to go and to score some maggots in, and so same to buy some of that pletenochku and povodkovuyu as such in Dmitrovsky District, Moscow Oblast’fishing no clothing left fishing club long have.
In little shop inexpensive pletenki not proved, all was above 1,000 rubles and 8-1930 manufacture gut pletenki, whom until that I not want enjoy, and only want try inexpensive option simple pletenki Super PE, because as before I catching only several times on one and the when he launched, and was not over-, and now decided to try and discover cons, and pros compared with mono fishing line.
So as in this little shop not it turned out inexpensive pletenki, then I simply on simply blackcurrant moldy worm and went in the next Music. In another no clothing left on their counter I saw one Allvega for 500 rub posts wheelbarrows and decided not thinking buy its. Choice on dimetru was of course not big:: 0.10 (display Royal), hadn (GREEN) and 0.14 (GREEN), in a consequence what I took itself hadn and father 0.14. So same in this no clothing left I bought povodkovuyu to let the line out OWNER Broad 0.12mm and hooks OWNER 53100 16 th numbers and 53938 14 th numbers. Arriving home (on liberal scattering) I became gear up to tomorrow’s fishing.
1. It's stuck in her one as been paved with bekingom and on late not zamorachivayas with individual montazhami on fishing made already Pater Noster (disambiguation), if that the goes not so (skhody and vast) the I have there are already in advance circumspect vstavochki from gum 10-15 centimeters, but rather the contestant as such which was on shpule (0.23mm Hikara from Traper) on that it's stuck in her one rewound on another coil and owing to what I have there is choice: One coil 3,500 with a twist, and the other 3,000 with monkoy.
2. Made about 8-1930 a leash around 50-75 centimeters with hooks OWNER 53100 16 th numbers and 53938 14 th on my a makeshift stanochke for knitting circle tug ropes from kryuchkovyazov Stonfo small and large size on semblance of Stonfo - STANOChEK TO would tug ropes.
3. Was mixing prikormku: A minor grinding + mixture of feedmill + spelt be scattered-green-bean-perlovaya gruel.
To a fishing trip was all is prepared.
Marshal we with father in 03 :5 0 and had gone in 04 :4 0. On a fishing trip we were already in district 04 :5 5.
Crafting its favorite place (established podstavochki, have spread dipy, prikormku around his chairs, a savings box with kormushkami that would were under hand and of course same its povodochnitsu). So as I have on a coil already is worth pletenka the I decided to still times for confidence prostuchat bottom, so as before I prostukival those pounder which catching and on a coil was the fishing line is, but as all know, that chuynіst-zvonkost under prostukivaniya trawling have monkey virtually nor what + strongly moves away in arc. Prostuchav bottom under aid pletenki I understood, that in principle not Shiller wrong in those been, which prostukival bottom monkoy, but with a twist outstanding autochthon landscapes bottom in been means guaranteed and talks best. That me gave prostukivanie trawling under aid pletenki:
1. Compared with monkoy prostukivanie trawling with a twist more that sounds more up-and all that happening on bottom all of this ceded on khlystik and on udilischu in hand.
2. Found dalneyu point in district 30-35 meters with svalom (yamkoy) and more out a smooth-the flat with a small drobinkoy in hand way out of this svala (pit) without zatsepov and obstacles in Roles big rocks, pretty ones, camping on’s exit from svala was smooth, and a net.
3. Prostuchav found so same and blizhneyu point in district 18-25 meters a similar on senses here on point higher, but already with exit from svala - pit in more zailennuyu zone.

Will continue further … crafting all on its place where I leader was coming harvest I began to do mass zakorm on dalneyu point the feeding trough Chameleon any seafood brunch\ 30ml: About 25 feeders. Zakormiv point I method noose in loop've interfaced ceasing 0.12mm\ 75 centimeters to already ready services on late pletenochki: Pater Noster (disambiguation), and crime as already became use a lesser capacity AXC 30 ml. F2\ any seafood brunch. All zabrosy which were made until 7 :3 0 morning not gave nor no outcome: Nor trigger, nor perch even and nor obsosov. In 07 :4 0 occurred the first poklevka and on the hook proved perch, who was on back in Canal. In 07 :5 0 have father occurred social bream and I him proposed put cube gum, so as he, too, but on one. In district starters 8 th I decided to to move on blizhneyu point and try swim on it, so as knew, that in this time in this zone suited and comes on point my already espoused and because Pelecus cultratus. The first 2-3 zabrosa not gave nor no outcome. In district 08 :2 0 have father the apparently podleschik on 600 gr and the rubber band him as he says very liked and helped. In 08 :3 0\ 40 I have began so say charging, so as on blizhneyu point again embraced Pelecus cultratus. With August 30, 2007 – 11 :1 0\ 20 on every impose on the summer of (under fall defence wakes up aggressivity roughly on expense 20-30) occurred poklevki and until 11 :3 0 hours I coached this 17 chekhoney, 5-7 bass and one scale a white bream.
For entire fishing trip was was just picked up by 19 chekhoney, about dozen bass and two a white bream.
That can say pro the very fishing trip, fishing the hugely exasperated and in this time I already compared with previous my catch of the day tonight Pelecus cultratus virtually size of its outcome and most importantly found approach to fish, and so same received unbelievable number of personally, shot of adrenaline and heap of emotions from the search for such excellent, beautiful and perky in ages fish.

Anyone reflecting luck and No tail, nor scale!

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JeWgIeNiJ, where derzhitsya? Without pictures and report not report :tomato:

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Report for 21 July - as them. Moscow Dmitrovsky District, Moscow Oblast district.

Greetings all.

Fish-sicles:
Fish-sicles including that and in previous my reports, only to this the main a mixture I decided to separately do batter's box now with 30-40% land:
1. Gruel (spelt be scattered-perlovaya).\ Paul a pot.
2. Several good pair zhmeney scale grinding.
3. Own kantsetrat anisette adjust our (50-100 ml).
That this such? Yes all simply, this my with start-up zakorm, which in my opinion will better deductible on bottom, on for expense of heavy land. T.’s is obtained initial zakormochnyy carpet through dubious theatrics can, which in further I will –-dosylat and moisture to on him with not frequent already perezabrosami (on expense 150-200) basic its mixture of-prikormku.

Weather:
Weather in Sunday was the awful. With morning elcome still only begin and morosil, but we all ??? stomach to go spend some time fishing.

Time of origin and arriving on body of water:
Had gone we with father in 04 :4 5 and were on a reservoir already in the early 6 th.

Some tackle:
1. On a coil pletenka hadn Allvega Bullit Braid SUPER PE.
2. Hooks OWNER 53100 16 th.
3. Leashes are 50 – 100 centimeters from povodochnoy filament OWNER Broad 0.12mm.
4. Tooling Pater Noster (disambiguation) (associated on the basis of – pletenke + cube gum-insert).
5. Trough Chameleon any seafood brunch\ 30ml.

The distance industrialized fishing:
1. The first point in district 30-35 meters with svalom (yamkoy) and more out a smooth-the flat with a small drobinkoy in hand way out of this svala (pit) without zatsepov and obstacles in Roles big rocks, pretty ones, camping on’s exit from svala was smooth, and a net.
2. The second point in district 18-25 meters a similar on haigus on point higher, but already with exit from svala - pit in more zailennuyu zone.

Fishing:
Crafting all on its place where I leader was coming harvest I began to do mass zakorm on the contestant point, which me more just Belarusian jersey in Estonia and liked (the distance industrialized fishing about 25 flushed) from a mixture with 30-40% land. Making with start-up zakorm and on his a small carpet through dubious theatrics can in point industrialized fishing I podsoedil ceasing (75 centimeters) method noose in loop and began dosylat in this point from above prikormochnogo carpet basic its mixture of the same the feeding trough (Chameleon any seafood brunch\ 30ml) with perezabrosami on expense 150-200.
Where the in district the beginning of 7 th on point marshal just lame-o and poklevki were very cautious, and to tie a blood knot not was nor no sense, so as confident and khlestkikh belly not was, and pulling out tackle from water saw, that from oparikov which I has spread on hook were buggered all juices and they were of dead – clear sucker. After several perezabrosov, on point embraced back Pelecus cultratus, but already compared with the distance on which I its eiaee before she is misaligned on the contestant point far I he'd put his initially zakormochnuyu mixture of with 30-40% land, camping on’s tactic-strategy vprintsipi worked, but with large BUT, Pelecus cultratus came, and just lame-o are gone.

With 07 :3 0 until 08 :3 0 was very many idle poklevok Pelecus cultratus, so as under perezabrose on point, she was gripping on the summer of the pourer, but ever missed or what the she feared and so not confidently of solidity the pourer.
In the early 9 th happened 3 the vanishing many Pelecus cultratus and one a white bream grams on 400 recognized near heads podsaka under vyvazhivanie.

In 09 :3 0\ 40 went already more less confident poklevki Pelecus cultratus and until 11 hours was been seized 6 units many Pelecus cultratus and on this fishing ended

That can say pro the very fishing trip, fishing of course vprintsipi Commission itself if borrow in expense ugly weather and rain, which sheds as from buckets. Nerves of course need have iron, that would harvest in such a weather.
For all time fishing was very many skhodov, breakages the leash, zaputyvaniy the leash around cordage and vast, but as me seems on this all put downward pressure Filthy weather and expense of this all worked so as broke a. My tactic-strategy with the carpet 30-40% land with adding in it porridge and scale grinding, and in further dosyl on this point basic mixture of not despite such a doing a lousy weather vprinipi worked, in the early on point came just lame-o, but then their 100% have been scared off and had for decent on the door frame Pelecus cultratus. As continue to keep a white bream and bream for point, when near is worth and stands at for decent on the door frame Pelecus cultratus I if honestly not know, but know one thing, that belle (podleschik and bream) moves away with point fishing when Pelecus cultratus suited in this zone and therefore conclusion such, that belle fears such a mass approach Pelecus cultratus in zone prikormochnogo carpet and seats fishing. Of course had forced Pelecus cultratus on feeder delivers unbelievable pleasure, so as fish the Beautiful, because, a strong, but want swim still and belle (a white bream and bream), and when near Pelecus cultratus this do impossible or perhaps, but there is what the deceptions pro which I still until that not know, but very want to know and all ??? keep on point a white bream and bream.

Anyone reflecting luck and No tail, nor scales!

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Report for 28 July - as them. Moscow Dmitrovsky District, Moscow Oblast district.

Greetings all.

fish-sicles:

What enters in my mixture of?

1. Gruel (spelt be scattered-perlovaya).
2. Otvarennyy peas until fortune puree + decided to his grind up in comparison.
3. A minor grinding of grain and not only cultures (maize starches, pea, straw, bran,) + the remnants of apartment, oat straw, chechevichnoy flour and vast. This mixture of well is described in my report for 29 June.
4. Zemyal nesutsya 50-70%.
5. Own concentrates liqueur made; Arabic kitchen anise, 's a can of orange and a peppermint (50-100 ml).

How all prigotavlivalos?

Preparation zakormochnoy a mixture-carpet:
All very simply. I separated its spelt be scattered-perlovuyu bag for together with pea puree in half and from one part of made batter's box now with 50-70% land of Mole + added concentrate anisette adjust our 50-100 ml + several good pair zhmeney scale grinding and a mixture feedmill.

What gives this composition?

Yes all simply, this my with start-up zakorm, which in my opinion will better deductible on bottom, on for expense of heavy land. T.’s is obtained initial zakormochnyy carpet through dubious theatrics can, which in further I will –-dosylat and moisture to on him with not frequent already perezaprosami (on expense 150-200) basic its mixture of-prikormku.

WHOLESALE prikormka:

With the main prikormkoy was sent so same, only without adding land and concentrate, so as with smells I two expense of Dipov pryskaya on the pourer or crime as, and on outset kneading never leave publications smells expense of keep the mixes. Hang on for adding in prikormku.

used dipy:

In this year I decided to stop its choice on products Silver Bream, so as PRICE\ QUALITY on perform well.
Typified plus this products is that if you buy any vial Dipa with various choice on smells that occur, then under opening the a cap this the bottle with goes characteristic and a clear smells moreover, that written on labels + not much PRICE – this all together is captivating and brings the me on the use of this products.

The odors which works in is place where I enleve:

1. Tutti-frutti
2. White fish
3. Vanilla

The tackle:

1. On a coil pletenka hadn Allvega Bullit so Braid SUPER PE + on recommendations BMW (expert fishing club rusfishing) put stopped-Supreme from 0.25 mm filament.
2. Hooks OWNER 53100 16 th and 53938.
3. Dog leashes but also 50 – 100 centimeters from povodochnoy fishing line of yours OWNER Broad 0.12mm.
4. Tooling Pater Noster (disambiguation) (associated on stopped-leader).
5. Trough Chameleon and ACX.

Weather:

At all I thought, that weather will such a same as on last my fishing and will bring a series of inconvenience, but weather ironically was laying out.

Our time for standing pat of origin and arriving on a body of water:

Had gone we with father in 04 :4 0 and were on a reservoir already in district 6 th.

dive:

Crafting all on its place I decided to still times examine underwater terrain trawling dam in my zone with the help markernogo weight.
As showed prostukivanie, then from coast Leni is goes a sharp soon there sval from 4-'s steps and the latter there's a step has the most big, and a sharp tilt, which forms brovku. On the first high importance the depth of about 3-'s flushed and this there's a step-gathering spaces that offer universal has characteristic scree the groundwork with ilistymi rugs. The second and the third there's a step-gathering spaces that offer universal in principle such a same as and the first with a regular a stony the foundation and ilistymi spots. The depth of on the second ledge-chessboard of about 4m, but on the third slightly more 4-'s. Structure trawling on of last high importance-chessboard of ilistaya with rare pebbles + characteristic spills limestone (mineral) and the depth of in this place about 6 forge the
Before the first ledge 18 flushed (85 centimeters (for one turnover)\ 22 turnover), and to the last 32m (85sm (for one turnover)\ 38 gather steam;).
Самыми перспективными точками для ловли я посчитал первую и последнюю ступеньки, но как мне показалось , что на первой ступеньки будет стоять больше мелкая рыбка , так как исходя из своей практики я пришел к такому выводу , что когда ты нацеливаешься на более крупную рыбку , то ловить ближе 20м не имеет ни какого смысла , так как более крупная рыбка тусуется в более глубинных придонных местах начиная где то с 20 м с глубиной больше 4 м, поэтому исходя из этого я решил остановиться на последней ступеньки-площадке , которая как мне показалось имеет больше перспектив , так как имеет пятна ракушечника, где по моему мнению крупная рыба будет лучше себя вести, кормиться и задерживаться в точки лова , так как ракушаный стол всегда в принципе считался самым перспективным местом для ловли более крупной рыбы.
Zakormiv point from zakormochnoy a mixture with adding 50-70% land of Mole I've interfaced 75 centimeters th ceasing and began sue on point with-sum game about 150 already basic mixture of. The first same impose on expense 50 me has brought an excellent the specimen a white bream, which do have a sharp on was butting heads with me about of coastline.
The next 3-4 zabrosa nor gave nor no outcome. Fifth impose on expense 70 has brought me another a white bream, but he much less first maybe there. Sixth impose on expense 120 has brought me another a white bream, but he less first and second. The next 6 zabrosov (on every of them) showed, that on point is worth bream, but confident poklevok strictures per se not was and to tie a blood knot not was nor no sense, and under vymatyvanie some tackle was in sight, that this was cautious and a wee. leschik, which stood and cautiously obsasyval moldy worm from which've wrung all juices. На 7-ом забросе (при выматывание снасти) при осторожном подъеме удилища к верху и соответственно осторожном и плавным подъеме на дне насадки схватил лещ, который был на стойко бойким , что мне показалось, что это вовсе не лещ , а приличный сомик или налимчик , но возле береговой лини за водорослями он показался на поверхности и это был настоящей трофейный лещ , которого я не ловил с роду как минимум на 1.5 кг , но при таком бойком Лещевым рвение уйти с крючка возле берега, Лещ все таки выиграл данную схватку и поводок к моему сожалению не выдержал данного Лещового упорства.
The next zabrosy not gave nor no outcome and the latest Leschik, which gone near Bank, as me seems booking, its brethren, and after this not was nor one poklevki.

The findings of this and small notes to next a fishing trip:

Want express a special lasting gratitude expert under down BMW (expert fishing club rusfishing), for his recommendations. On recommendations BMW I on one pegged stopped-Supreme from 0.25mm fishing line of yours and expense of this - this was in sight very well, tackle has become balanced and clear (sensitivity in pritsipe remained as, and here is skhody, zaputyvaniya and perekhlesty diminished - this fact), and that me particularly hit surprised - not was nor one zaputyvaniya and perekhlestov, and so same want emphasize characteristic plus this stopped-FANUC on pletenki is the, that need not use nor any individual recording and and as the to dwell on – all really jibe on really stopped-leader …. All simply and easily.
For themselves I made some little notes for next fishing:
1. All caught podleschiki zasekalis not Klassicheski for lip, and zaglatyvali hook with the bait quite ??? deeply, so from this conclusion such is, that on next fishing d apply dog leashes but also smaller sizes 30-60 see
2. Was very many careful not publications poklevok under which to tie a blood knot not was nor no sense. Conclusion such is, that as me seems, that under movement bream with right complement (when is worth and obsasyvaet) on bottom he shots up entire length leverage paternostera and slightly stumbles on crime as, and respectively feels a small weight trough and what the tension kvivertipa on how late on Bank. So judging by from this on next a fishing trip I will try moving snap type Nesemmetrichki (likely its) or TUIT-'s Layna as times for more careful and one skittish fish.

Goal was podleschik and bream, and as me seems its goal I achieved, of course with some can, nedochetami and pomarkami in osnastochkakh and vast, but all passed quite successfully and fishing I exasperated.
Hope that on the next a fishing trip my notes will help and fix entire situation with careful fish tank and zaglotami.

Staralsya to tell on more and unfolding all actions on art!
Thank you all!

Anyone reflecting luck and No tail, nor scale!

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Report for on July the 28, - as them. Moscow Dmitrovsky District, Moscow Oblast district.

Greetings all.

fish-sicles:

What enters in my mixture of?

1. Gruel (spelt be scattered-perlovaya).
2. Otvarennyy peas until fortune puree + decided to his grind up in comparison.
3. A minor grinding of grain and not only cultures (maize starches, pea, straw, bran,) + the remnants of apartment, oat straw, chechevichnoy flour and vast. This mixture of well is described in my report for 29 June.
4. Zemyal nesutsya 50-70%.
5. Own concentrates liqueur made; Arabic kitchen anise, 's a can of orange and a peppermint (50-100 ml).

How all prigotavlivalos?

Preparation zakormochnoy a mixture-carpet:
All very simply. I separated its spelt be scattered-perlovuyu bag for together with pea puree in half and from one part of made batter's box now with 50-70% land of Mole + added concentrate anisette adjust our 50-100 ml + several good pair zhmeney scale grinding and a mixture feedmill.

What gives this composition?

Yes all simply, this my with start-up zakorm, which in my opinion will better deductible on bottom, on for expense of heavy land. T.’s is obtained initial zakormochnyy carpet through dubious theatrics can, which in further I will –-dosylat and moisture to on him with not frequent already perezaprosami (on expense 150-200) basic its mixture of-prikormku.

WHOLESALE prikormka:

With the main prikormkoy was sent so same, only without adding land and concentrate, so as with smells I two expense of Dipov pryskaya on the pourer or the feeder, and on outset kneading never leave publications smells expense of keep the mixes. Hang on for adding in prikormku.

used dipy:

In this year I decided to stop its choice on products Silver Bream, so as PRICE\ QUALITY on perform well.
Typified plus this products is that if you buy any vial Dipa with various choice on smells that occur, then under opening the a cap this the bottle with goes characteristic and a clear smells moreover, that written on labels + not much PRICE – this all together is captivating and brings the me on the use of this products.

The odors which works in is place where I enleve:

1. Tutti-frutti
2. White fish
3. Vanilla

The tackle:

1. On a coil pletenka a 0.12 Allvega Bullit Braid SUPER PE + on recommendations the m.B.C. put stopped-Supreme from 0.25 mm fishing line of yours.
2. Hooks OWNER 53100 16 th and 53938.
3. Dog leashes but also 50 – 100 centimeters from povodochnoy fishing line of yours OWNER Broad 0.12mm.
4. Tooling Pater Noster (disambiguation) (associated on stopped-leader).
Don’t was able link in darkness as wanted to Nesemmetrichku.
5. Trough Chameleon and ACX.

Weather:

The awful. A strong breeze and times morosil rain, but closer to 11 it turned out real fine.

Our time for standing pat of origin and arriving on body of water:

Had gone we with father in 04 :3 0 and were on a reservoir already in district 6 th.

Relef trawling:

As showed prostukivanie, then from coast Leni is goes a sharp soon there sval from 4-'s steps and the latter there's a step has the most big, and a sharp tilt, which forms brovku. On the first high importance the depth of about 3-'s flushed and this there's a step-gathering spaces that offer universal has characteristic scree the groundwork with ilistymi rugs. The second and the third there's a step-gathering spaces that offer universal in principle such a same as and the first with a regular a stony the foundation and ilistymi spots. The depth of on the second ledge-chessboard of about 4m, but on the third slightly more 4-'s. Structure trawling on of last high importance-chessboard of ilistaya with rare pebbles + characteristic spills limestone (mineral) and the depth of in this place about 6 forge the
Before the first ledge 18 flushed (85 centimeters (for one turnover)\ 22 turnover), and to the last 32m (85sm (for one turnover)\ 38 gather steam;).
Самыми перспективными точками для ловли я посчитал первую и последнюю ступеньки, но как мне показалось , что на первой ступеньки будет стоять больше мелкая рыбка , так как исходя из своей практики я пришел к такому выводу , что когда ты нацеливаешься на более крупную рыбку , то ловить ближе 20м не имеет ни какого смысла , так как более крупная рыбка тусуется в более глубинных придонных местах начиная где то с 20 м с глубиной больше 4 м, поэтому исходя из этого я решил остановиться на последней ступеньки-площадке , которая как мне показалось имеет больше перспектив , так как имеет пятна ракушечника, где по моему мнению крупная рыба будет лучше себя вести, кормиться и задерживаться в точки лова , так как ракушаный стол всегда в принципе считался самым перспективным местом для ловли более крупной рыбы.

dive:

Zakormiv point from zakormochnoy a mixture with adding 50-70% land of Mole I've interfaced 50 centimeters th ceasing and began sue on point with-sum game about 150 already basic mixture of.
Through 5-6 zabrosov under vymatyvanie cordage on the rise rods up and jamborees on bottom grabbed podleschik or bream, but on several scandisk with relaxed friktsionom he gone (
Have father through minutes 5 poymalsya a minor podleschik, think that mima across collect, so as father not wants learns correctly harvest on feeder and is abandoning tackle far eyes are suspicious yes still, and side spinningovym zabrosom, after which one thing place it broken and couple of flaying, yes and me in addition prevents harvest, so as on any from for his the scenes of the POPALA ZABROSOV fish rassredotochivaetsya and not worth on one a certain point, and simply stupid passes on coarse stains and gets shitfaced (How many not explained listen to not wants (
The next zabrosy until 11 hours not gave nor any results (

That can say, I in principle presupposed that will such, so as me was at all visibly harvest, so as on the weeks I seriously I had hurt my hand near index finger on leftist drawn and from for this that would not inflict contagion of I all time outflts and was photographing rubber gloves off + limped for the accuracy of under zabrose + not dobrasyval often until clips and vast – very many what. From for this was lost 2 trough and ???? 4 the leash + several times lose its distance.
First time remained without capture of and not resigned from zero) Ok, need to look on all with with positive.

Anyone reflecting luck and No tail, nor scale!

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Report for 11 August - as them. Moscow Dmitrovsky District, Moscow Oblast district.

Find welcome this weekend’all fishermen.

Fish-sicles:

That enters in my mixture of?

1. Gruel perlovaya + grain wheat. In this time purely PERLOVAЯ-wheaten of and without adding pshenki. Under cooking added a bit smelling butter, sugar, of salt (quite slightly slightly) and two dining rooms phytosterols of honey.
2. Otvarennyy the peas until fortune puree.
In this time perlovku and the peas boiled in large quantities; Why? Read further.
3. A minor grinding of grain and not only cultures (maize starches, pea, straw, bran,) + the remnants of apartment, oat straw, chechevichnoy flour and vast. This mixture of well is described in my report for 29 June.
4. Gerkulesovye flakes.

As noticed in this time not entered the my composition here is what components (which enforced all preveduschie fishing):
1. Land nesutsya 50-70%:
2. Own concentrates liqueur made; Arabic kitchen anise, 's a can of orange and a peppermint (50-100 ml).

As all prigotavlivalos and why I deleted from its the composition Earth nesutsya 50-70% and own concentrates?
In this time I decided to go on Different path and here is that I made.
To / Swedish to the grind of grain and not only cultures I added part of otvarennoy perlovki, and pea puree (more than half) without adding curiously concentrated preset, dipov and mixes. Hang on, and like to moisturize so, that would prikormka was not viscous-heavy, broke a that the between of inertial and sypuchey prikormkoy. This will be my the main prikormkoy.
Another part of perlovki and pea puree I have spread for two go container hopping. In a box with perlovkoy I added several good pair zhmeney original flakes, maize meal flour, one zhmenyu a mixture feedmill, sdobril all of this agriculture several pots & pans spoons pakhnuschim oils and one dining room spoon of honey. Forth on body of water took several table of spoons zavalyavshikhsya preserve - MACHA, KARITsU and mixture of spices (the remaining with past fishing trips), for order to on a reservoir share broadcast in advance part of perlovki and to this part of perlovki add - MACHA and Karitsu and separate the other parts of mixture of spices – is obtained 4 different the composition.
In a box with pea puree nor what not Port of.

In composition a mixture spices enters: Coriander, ground garlic, khmeli-suneli, bag sesame and vast. All that remained with past fishing trips. Inscription quite on slightly slightly.

Ask, Why need individual three container?

All very simply. In this time I simply decided to lists prikormku and promoted in the feeder the small number of a mixture from different containers; gagging all of this agriculture with laterally trough cork from the main prikormki.
I decided to this do combination with sudden cooling that, if all together get somethin 'as I did previously, then:
1. Not one senses smells pea plants. He merges with the entire a mixture of not giving virtually nor what, if only what the a small suspended matter.
In my case was two options;
1. Boil peas in much large quantities.
2. Cook as usually or a bit more and apply separately laying in trough gagging Tyres from the main a mixture with sides. This option me grassroots more, so as sidelines congestion trough from the main a mixture will a bit be any dust here, thereby attracting any fish different strata water, but on bottom under raspadenie congestion (prikormki) they go into the background. And probkovaya prikormka will as would cover prey crime as Sitting near, and some predusmatrivaet will a bit climb to top, and already Proposals its was build (perlovaya or green-bean) will to lend a clear loop mutti, smells, more large particles (if this Perlovka and mixture of feedmill) and vast.
2. So same if all of this together mix (especially shuropovertom) the from perlovki little that will remain, and me need to that would Perlovka was as semblance of PELLETSA – delicious large factions together with combination of supplements a mixture feedmill.
From for these cons kneading pea puree and perlovki together with the main prikormkoy I and decided to to move on such method tasty applying PRIKORMKI + toppings fish.
Most important: Why same I refused from
1. Land nesutsya 50-70%;
2. Own concentrates liqueur made; Arabic kitchen anise, 's a can of orange and a peppermint (50-100 ml).
All because, that I refused from mass zakorma in favor of TEMPOVOY industrialized fishing – now have to harvest.
By my grounds will better use TEMPOVUYu enleve, so as in principle she nor than not different from mass zakorma, only if those, that making mass zakorm we his do without defence wakes up aggressivity and with much rapid vymatyvaniem trough from water, and plyukhaniem its back on point; ME think THAT, What you didn't DO NOT it be seen poklevok OR it be seen THEM to ONLY AML COOKWARE fishing, THAT is what AS What you SEREZNO scare off ALL SUCH aggressive ZABROSAMI And PLYuKhANIEM trough In point fishing, And TD.
In TEMPOVOY industrialized fishing – now have to harvest, In my TEMPOVOY industrialized fishing quite all on Different. Having defined (determined) with the feeding trough, which I will harvest entire session, I podsoedinyayu ensured me ceasing. Further I do perezabrosy trough + ceasing on point with-sum game 40-100. As only on point suited petty fish the expense increases: 150-200. If on point comes podleschik or bream expense again same expands, but already more seriously: We take our time 5-10 minutes confident poklevok, that would not scare-scare off on the door frame a white bream or bream podoshedshego on point. Here is exactly And VSE.
From own kontsetratov-liqueur made, mixes. Hang on, dipov and adding their in prikormku on primary stage that I refused, because I decided to all ??? if and need give smells-flavor feeding trough with prikormkoy the I better d use separately DIPY and to experiment with them on a fishing trip.


Used dipy:

In this year I decided to stop its choice on products Silver Bream, so as PRICE\ QUALITY on perform well.
Typified plus this products is that if you buy any vial Dipa with various choice on smells that occur, then under opening the a cap this the bottle with goes characteristic and a clear smells moreover, that written on labels + not much PRICE – this all together is captivating and brings the me on the use of this products.

Odors which works in is place where I enleve:

1. Tutti-frutti
2. White fish
3. Vanilla

The nozzle sitch and their combination of:
1. Red and white maggot;
2. The worm
3. Die-cuts from bread zadipovannaya different dipami and podsushena:
4. Perlovka from containers;.

Workers and not bad a combination of nozzles, which attracted a fish:
1. Partitioned in half the worm nasazhivalsya on hook and shut up one oparikom (the worm shared for moreover that would more gave its smells);
2. Zadipovannaya die-cuts from bread + the worm + one oparik;
3. Several corn perlovki + one oparik
4. Zadipovannaya die-cuts from bread + several corn perlovki + one oparik
5. Mixture of red and white moldy worm (3-7 shutuk on the hook) with one podrezannym oparikom (for moreover that would better gave its natural smells) if this 3 oparika on the hook, and if this 7 the 2-3 podrezannykh oparika.

Best on my view a combination of, which more identified with goldfish - under 5 st, 1 st and 2 st number from the list of higher.
Cordage:

1. On a coil pletenka hadn Allvega Bullit Braid SUPER PE + stopped Leader Forum from 0.25 mm fishing line of yours;
2. Hooks OWNER 53100 16 th numbers.
3. Leashes are 50 – 100 centimeters from povodochnoy filament OWNER Broad 0.12mm.
4. Tooling Pater Noster (disambiguation) (associated on stopped-leader) and “Helicopter and two knots ” (Helicopter and two knot).

Not became knitting moving snap on one simple reason, because in preveduschey a fishing trip was many silt on feeding trough, junctions snap paternostera and a bit on the hook. And all Perhaps know and nor whom not secret, that Pater Noster (disambiguation) tooling, which expense of his leverage-averting under crime as not pulling ceasing further in though if directing with the feeding trough up to his ball sack in ilu.
Such effect gives also still thanks terminals (a glancing Pater Noster (disambiguation)). In services IN-line to vertlyuzhku or vertlyuzhku with karabinnom determined otvodik 8-15 centimeters (with one hand from hard filament 0.26-0.35 is done a small loop for compounds with vertlyuzhkom or vertlyuzhkom with korabinom, and with Drugova of the late really jibe much noose as WE do loop under the feeder in services Pater Noster (disambiguation) – forth method nakidki deal through the feeder mounting your itself there's gravy) to which so same as and in PATERNOSTERE method nakidki deal through trough mounting your itself there's gravy. Or same can be on really a reservoir simply spinning as such to vertlyuzhku, prefer to measure twice and 8-15 centimeters and spinning the feeder to another the end of.

In mid-a fishing trip raised directing under ceasing to top and linked the another Uzlinka higher knot averting under crime as on 2 centimeters – Lies tooling “HELlCOPTER and two knots ” (Helicopter and two knot).“ Helicopter and two knots ” (Helicopter and two knot), as and Pater Noster (disambiguation) well themselves shows on reservoirs with slime.
Many think, that with bezotvodnym connection such as in “HELlCOPTER and two knots ” (Helicopter and two knot) tooling will be confused and vast, but all not so, in my case this tackle nor never not'm confused and can with certainty say, that“ HELlCOPTER and two knots ” way as not strange less Paternostera. Snastochka me very liked, so as such method fastening filament (method nakidki), which gives without otvodnoe connecting allows put a leash on a after the fall of the trough on bottom vystilatsya on direct lines and ceasing respectively it turns out in prikormochnoy zone. So same this tooling universal as me seems, expense of without otvodnogo compounds ceasing slowly falls on bottom and those really attracts fish, which held in the top of layers water, and expense of vystilaniya the leash on direct lines with prikormochnym stain gives by fish quickly find the pourer

5. Trough Chameleon 60gr (30ml).

Weather:

The awful. A strong breeze and times, it was drizzling, but closer to 11 it turned out real fine.

Time of origin and arriving on body of water:

Had gone we with father in 04 :3 0 and were on a reservoir already in district 6 th.

Terrain trawling:

As showed prostukivanie, then from coast Leni is goes a sharp soon there sval from 4-'s steps and the latter there's a step has the most big, and a sharp tilt, which forms brovku. On the first high importance the depth of about 3-'s flushed and this there's a step-gathering spaces that offer universal has characteristic scree the groundwork with ilistymi rugs. The second and the third there's a step-gathering spaces that offer universal in principle such a same as and the first with a regular a stony the foundation and ilistymi spots. The depth of on the second ledge-chessboard of about 4m, but on the third slightly more 4-'s. Structure trawling on of last high importance-chessboard of ilistaya with rare pebbles + characteristic spills limestone (mineral) and the depth of in this place about 6 forge the
Before the first ledge 18 flushed (85 centimeters (for one turnover)\ 22 turnover), and to the last 32m (85sm (for one turnover)\ 38 gather steam;).
Самыми перспективными точками для ловли я посчитал первую и последнюю ступеньки, но как мне показалось , что на первой ступеньки будет стоять больше мелкая рыбка , так как исходя из своей практики я пришел к такому выводу , что когда ты нацеливаешься на более крупную рыбку , то ловить ближе 20м не имеет ни какого смысла , так как более крупная рыбка тусуется в более глубинных придонных местах начиная где то с 20 м с глубиной больше 4 м, поэтому исходя из этого я решил остановиться на последней ступеньки-площадке , которая как мне показалось имеет больше перспектив , так как имеет пятна ракушечника, где по моему мнению крупная рыба будет лучше себя вести, кормиться и задерживаться в точки лова , так как ракушаный стол всегда в принципе считался самым перспективным местом для ловли более крупной рыбы.

Fishing:

Write in in short, because as write particularly not what?
After 10 th zabrosa began so say had forced Since slim, so as on point embraced petty fish in Roles perch.
Until 11 hours was been seized more 30 bass and one a minor podleschik. Virtually the entire fish was not, except serious zaglotov (authorized the neighbor's the cats, so as my ZASRANETs (for ") not eats fish).
Carrying:
Not prep the bag for for 2-3 days before fishing, even if you a good refrigerator and vast, so as my gruel prepared in Friday starters prokisat already in Saturday and on a fishing trip had to neatly zadipovyvat entire mixture of, that would whip this not a good a smell to it.

All luck and No tail, nor scale!
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Report for 25 August - as them. Moscow Dmitrovsky District, Moscow Oblast district.

Hello!

In recent two fishing and at all I refused from preparations prikormki homes for day before fishing, and so entire mixture of scale grinding + mixture of feedmill I took with a on Canal, and now I will quietly knead for prikormku directly on really a reservoir, that would not was thought, that this mixture of's gone sour, vanished and vast – IT absorbed ALWAYS WILL BE fresh.
Arriving on body of water in the beginning of 6 th morning I immediately made batter's box now in half a mixture scale grinding + a mixture feedmill with adding concentrate of anise (anisovye breath with pharmacies divorced in water (no\ on 750-800 ml water) with small adding butter) – THAT WILL BE MY with start-up ZAKORM\ PRIVADA. Another part of scale grinding + a mixture feedmill I stirred conventional water from dam – THAT MY the main PRIKORMKA.
Razlozhivshis on a reservoir and vast I studied still times terrain trawling, BUT RIGHT NOT MARKERNYM gruzikom, and the the feeding trough which d harvest – TO DUTY ACCURATE PADAChI trough + PRIKORMKA In point fishing (parusnost markernogo gruzika and volumetric trough different, after punching dnaya gruzikom, and then to yell irrationally for in this point crime as and provolochiv his on beneath the don, that] However not in is place where prostukival gruzikom – thermal fluid THEREFORE decided that THAT is what POPROBOVAT) forth I made with start-up zakorm – 15 feeders. After zakorma I began harvest, installation of was NESEMMETRIChKA (from 0.25 filament) with svisom 0.5sm, basis on a coil - cord 0.12mm, ceasing from povodochnoy filament OWNER Broad 0.12mm a long 75sm with crocheted OWNER 53100 16 th numbers. In those been yalovil with stopped-LIDEROM from 0.25 fishing line of yours, in this time I decided to his to lift and watch as will behave tackle in a whole on for and will be whether the difference – RAZNITsA rely tangibly felt And visible, WITHOUT shock tackle rely MENEE rolling stock ON DAYS sorts of things BEFORE Since shock.
Time already matched to 8-and hours and here I decided to reverse its a montage NESEMMETRIChKI on Pater Noster (disambiguation), but results, too, not was and I decided to put its a favorite already a montage helicopter And TWO YEARS knot, and here the first poklevka at first same impose, take out a and this it turns out podleschik on 400-500 gr. Here begins most interesting, a white bream I wanted to issue podrastat, but father me not gave this do, nourished German with words on soup goes and vast. I took big the pelvis (not wanted to wetting the a hatchling pond), put an this a white bream there, he lay kept, but as only I licked with this pelvis to water and were, to parca water and vast he began are quick squirming, will you, 'd jump up on gender Dam, iaeee me water with fat and and in scales, have jumped through the lifeline to the pelvis and proved already in water dam - I LONG roarin 'And THlNKlNG ANY THE SAME sleekit wee OKAZALSЯ PODLESchIK, anyways gave me mass of personally and his smile on personified by, that not was mixing still a long time with faces.
After first a white bream was many large poklevok obvious obsosov, so as on tight leash remained mucus after vymatyvaniya some tackle from water for perezabrosa (camping on’s podleschik or bream has been writhing around in point fishing near mounting with a leash around). Through minutes 40-50 I caught another such a same a white bream, can fan of smaller. Время уже подходило к началу 11 и мы начали собираться, а фидер продолжал стоять на подставке, когда я все свои пречендалы убрал в машину я спокойно направился к своему месту , что бы вытащить снасть из воды и убрать удилище с подставками , подойдя к удилищу я увидел слабенькие тычки и решил подождать минут 5, после 5-ти минут ни чего не было и тут я решил выматывать снасть , на медленном подъеме удилища и легким движением рукоятки катушки я начал приподнимать насадку с кормушкой от то дна, и тут я почувствовал сильный удар + вес рыбы + очень хорошо согнулось верхняя часть удилища . I began quietly to pump fish, but when all of this deal is now over to shore electric supply zaroslyam silt and algae, then in this place I hesitated, with a fool ceased work with coil and a bit lowered the place it and in a consequence what received zatsep trough (there's gravy in that the insisted we had) recognized near Bank flushed metres 5-8. I decided to wait minutes 5, and suddenly itself will spill the beans and will free up, but nor what not happened and I decided to so as pounder nor what not managed do consumes hands for cord And HERE “averting AML crime as IT TOGETHER Since a leash around.
Want say that fishing exasperated, but as me 6600m FAZA Ah, this is great has shifted on closer to 9 fringes hours, so as in this time fish starters very actively splashing about and vast, camping on’s in the very moment when Sonechko is beginning to exits and-heat your water breaks on a reservoir fish is beginning to aktivnichat.
Want still add the, that found minus In the cow sheds a chameleon CRYSTAL, and these swing is that wits this trough cut deal recording and from fishing line of yours – repeatedly such was,. Read, poof and “, you punch out and you look, and noose from fishing line of yours where was there's gravy ransom in half.

The nozzle sitch was; maggot and the worm - either simply on maggot or combination of the worm + maggot. Simply maggot worked better.

ALL NKhNCh!

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JeWgIeNiJ wrote:

«helicopter and two knots»

And could not would show or give exile on video as it is done, thank you

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Волжанин wrote:

and could not would show or give exile on video as it is done, thank you

Enter Smicor in snap, Precious and accessories ” Primenenie protivozakruchivateley and various fidernykh osnastok and there my post with number’s 785.

Do as on the picture higher in this my post.
Now want try as proposed BMW from Central Fishing Club - not with svisom as have Paternostera until 20 centimeters, and to expand them this svis until 50 centimeters (that would ceasing more played and window. His from the trawling) + guess I'll knit all of this deal on document with a string (basis). Option from BMW there same in post’s 785.

That tickles not know.

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