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And me more likes such: "- It's difficult whether wait change for the better?
-If wait, then long! "

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In the past year have Team Ukraine on fideru was two sponsor - Chimei and Flagman. From first no demands not was. From second many different conditions: Clothing with brands of, busy briefing with photo on several forums with as citing sponsors, photo with exchage, articles in journals "Rybolov-Ukraine" and "Modern fishing", video on videos, right?, master-class in no clothing left flagship. All these demands were met in faithfully. Personally wrote article in "Sovremennuyu fishing" (without big paycheck), made many photo and uploaded broadcast in Tosh 2.0.
In this year talked with three our firms. From all received roughly such the answer: "Advertising budget for this year already pretty much exhausted, sorry." Marrying spoke with several the soviet providers. Outcome the-same. No one not interestingly. :dontknow:

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Boev wrote:

From all received roughly such the answer: "Advertising budget for this year already pretty much exhausted, sorry." Marrying spoke with several the soviet providers. Outcome the-same. No one not interestingly.


Oleg, on Worlds-14 on-good with potential sponsors of need to speak already now. Until is faring the formation budgets on the next year.
But this too perishing professional approach for, charitably, not very professional management (though, what he there see management?) our Federation. :dontknow:

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Quite not surprising, that sponsors for mezhdunarodnukh fidernykh championships there is no. In our countries (I from Estonia, but Ukraine, Belarus and others. Itself in a similar situation). Mean, ready posting incurs amount on a path and living with convenience 5 fringes man athletes + support. And not simply provide prikormkoy, the bait, and the such inexpensive component of. As someone already in this the Frost said, this simply not pay.

On my view, there is 2 option.

The first - this the availability of in team athlete, which let and not one of the best in country, in feeder, but with successful business and ready pay for success team (in which, naturally, he will consist).

The second - popularization fidernogo sport among youth. I have there are several books the second than half past century, with 56 year and more recent. Articles dramatically differ from what can be to see in modern journals. In them one senses, that fishing - this not prikormki, nozzles, of the lures etc., as have us now. Fishing - this passion, unity with nature, the excitement. Andfishing sport - this realistically sport, not reason soothe its sorevnovatelskiy the excitement (who whom), type in casino go on drunk mistake.

Need to organize mugs on fideru, on voluntary, honorary basis. And already through 10 years, for our spins, if present, will these thousands of man (as, for example, in of England), which not leave sponsors in staunch supporter.

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-spender ready spend means on obtaining and the spread of information / rudely speaking /. Obtaining information consists in how and than also arriving in range of. This kind of information is in a free access at this Forum. The spread of information / advertisements in camping on CHAMPION And entire / minus example Flagman - even on this Forum there is reports that the something and the something can be to purchase only have them. Will whether someone on serious events use their cordage, prikormki etc -.
Can be try the next: Turn in trade networks with goal sponsorship aid in conducting precisely master-classes on places, not in Kyiv, and in Kirovograd (Ukraine), Chenigove, other iaeanoiuo centers and large cities, pre MKAD with latter,. This need for moreover, to lovers poschupati could this do and obtain the Flyer's etc. And this only the first step.
Torchbearer with name of already is business project itself with all stemming.

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Athletes must understand, that if them not finance--pushed duties before sponsors of, they either suggest, that on the next year this-spender or disappear, or will reduce the size of the sponsorship.

Torchbearer ? iai not responsible of rozumti, zavdannya athlete ssti ? loviti Ribu, not dumati de dstati mozhlivost vkladati koshti ? ye it for them vdchituvatis. For data funktsy o?aaa shukati manager. Tim a ? eu?a i ? ney office Olega Bova de chtko all rozlozheno on revers I think theme simply znyata. Sportsmeni vikonali nai ?zobovyazannya, ye ieioeiai ?ieo so ? ouiai.
Not want you obraziti but skladatsya priesthood, aoiea, ui Vi sam naproshutes aooe sponsor but happen, uia before you're caving. Willattend times vibachayus yeui you case obraziv!

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KPIT wrote:

Dont want you obraziti but skladatsya priesthood, aoiea, completed Vi sam naproshutes aooe sponsor but happen, uia before you're caving.

From companies FD be utterly Ukraine, alas, nothing not await. We this understood even three years ago before the first Worlds in Italy. Then they clearly and clear put down its position.

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In advertising budget FishDrima on the next year secretly sponsoring teams Ukraine on fideru and bobber as soon as.

S. Burdak wrote:

Kompiniya FIShDRIM is ready pay for fidernuyu team (for athletes)
Truth there is condition. Team button MUST BECOMEs champions WORLD. As you such a proposal?

S. Burdak wrote:

Collecting 100 100,000 the euro and in case lose you send 10 100,000 100,000 the euro. As you such a move?

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Ah and if say company X (several companies), for right production and fulfillment (only fulfillment) goods for fishing on territory Ukraine, skooperiruyutsya and circle if you ain't project in support just fishing sport Ukraine, namely in every unit product (in its-) willability to lay say so:
- the price units of product until 50grn - 25kop;
- the price units of product from 50grn until 100grn - 50kop;
- the price units of product 100grn until 200grn - 75kop;
- ah and forth on magnifying.
Monthly cede data means in Fund FRSU and in have order FRSU should accountable before data companies for every entertaining Quiz.

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Nu and if say.

Similar program already made our government:
In price fuels on petrol builds so say road tax. Nourished German we themselves, drivers, pay for the quality of and renovating roads. Idea many run, she acts in a series of European countries. That in end have us:
Money we pay under purchase fuels, roads horrendous. Who the for our expense another times not poorly rose. I not say that so same in a fishing sport will but in fuel sphere this is happening precisely so.

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PPS wrote:

in price fuels on petrol builds so say road tax.

Ah so owners fuel business data means convey state in as a tax, and here is state their lampooned nor there, and owners business not can to abandon paying tax, and in our situation if once a companies not like accountability FRSU the they boldly can send far away and hide a bench.

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And what sense in this companies? Ah here is not see I NO I argument "for" :dontknow: And why on feeder must launched, and not on your fishing bobber, for example?

Modicum and not my deal, but interestingly, those money which were contributions on rating sorevakh and on might and has been going in FRSU, went in budget trip team in South Africa?

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duffy333 wrote:

NO I argument "for"

Advertisements under any for competitions and simply support athletes, they same not with his pocket their will give.

duffy333 wrote:

And why on feeder must launched, and not on your fishing bobber, for example?

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in support just fishing sport Ukraine

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How many man are watching for Walter? How these contest highlights in mass media not to mention TV? About them even in proflnikh fishing editions mentioned it is write. Yes and who now in era the internet their reads.

Id say on confidence, the main buyer, if to speak pro donnuyu enleve, in our fishing stores very-very is far from fishing sport - the main profits is done on "dubinschikakh" and them similar. For whom athletes and them sympathetic as least are weirdos. If not say rougher. So the main-is done on low price segment - oil-cake, makushatniki, cheap prikormki. And the entire this "a trendy" imports rather the cherry on or - good but eat well difficult. Spinningi type "crocodile" and "breast is" are sold on arrangements and more, than all normal fidera and flety with methods combined.

Last edited by duffy333 (Nov 30 2013 20:20:29)

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duffy333 wrote:

How many man are watching for Walter? How these contest highlights in mass media not to mention TV? About them even in proflnikh fishing editions mentioned it is write. Yes and who now in era the internet their reads.

So in this in primarily guilt executives FRSU, here is FD spent festival on Kleban Bull and them was not in a bunch of pussies ask media.

duffy333 wrote:

[the main-is done on low price segment

Ah who the same bringing this product on territory Ukraine, and at this price segment can be and raise with its knees sport. I think, that if error buys makukhu or Chinese as the him particularly don't care are worth they on 30grn or on 31grn, and 1grn with units of product under such a fledged ultimately will give a huge boost.

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Well, suppose, that suddenly this utopian, situation became a reality. And here climbs out resurfaced already our living realities.
And taxes with this each 1 hryvnia who to pay will? This times. Have us all profits would minimize, tax strain as can "optimise", and here showed all yes still and it to give me someone% -) Mindjart.
And two this the that media for order to they came ask little - them to pay, too, need. And for assembling the the right material, and for posting. Especially many those media, which indeed buy to revere, not for order to sausage turn or the cat ?????????????? in a tray to break.
Have us in reality there is nothing free - for all need to pay. And here is be in our country altruistom, been or simply "charitable society" and a grid (tax not will understand), and nepristizhno.

Last edited by duffy333 (Nov 30 2013 20:56:08)

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Errori, but. Why companies-oriented domestic market, to provide funds on financing team on CHAMPION M., if for domestic market they nothing nor get to get raped / in the form of growth sales /.
Here is and is obtained, that those, whom need means, will have start work in country not with makushatnikov and crocodiles, and with oil-cake + and with types for 300grn, gradually histrionics why need the or another product.

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duffy333 wrote:

A taxes with this each 1 hryvnia who to pay will?

Ah himself producer or seller and pays from this same 1grn but part of this hryvnia remains on any, but as known our favorite state very likes decent taxpayers, and here recognized. And, look and taxes pay and charity engage in ah recognized good fellows.

duffy333 wrote:

A two this the that media for order to they came ask little - them to pay, too, need.

Ah under this development fishing sport this is so, but have us very many and fishing press and they under the bargain without gonorarnogo location I think will not against, ah and in the future imagine, that the most the resonant television networks and magazines will stand in waiting lists on issuing broadcast. :D A there can be, that anywhere, but without attract producers and sellersfishing sport will plummet with its knees on position lying position.

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polgize, but. Why companies-oriented domestic market,

Our producers as times on him and their, so as abroad under accounting transportation our product not konkurenten from-for the price-the quality of.

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to provide funds on financing team

All ??? teams, and not finance and cede means initially mortgaged in-precisely on development fishing sport.

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The fishers athletes-mature lovers. And therefore move need to very.
Buy cordage and vast.
Pay for participation in for competitions any levels.
This same hobby, not business, and if you themselves prof. The sportsman - businessman, the for you must stand firm, associated with fishing industry and to pay you for Planning of work.
I.e. you have should be contract. And so this all is borne by advanced the fishing trainer-athlete.
Only professional approach will give money, and this clubs collecting money with contributions rating competition, with the consequent use of these money for participation on international tournaments.
No one will pay for your hobby.

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JURI wrote:

Nobody will pay for your hobby.

And here is here I in fundamentally disagree, precisely fly fishermen-athletes give competent advice the suffering on gear prikormkam and to everything else from, and is obtained, that they simply advertise on were producer.

JURI wrote:

Only professional approach will give money

:yep:

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Ah finally went speech about khalavnoy advertising. Indeed do, lopsided.

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Such chuYstvo :crazyfun: that fly fishermen athletes still in the USSR. Where were mugs on drawing.
Only self-funding will give opportunity to participate on tournaments. If you not are linked with fish. Industry.

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JURI wrote:

If you not are linked with fish. Industry.

So here is this the most industry and need to take a closer carried to another place to their sport! :playful:

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More precisely said, lopsided.

Not quite understood your goes.

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We organize mugs on fideru, on voluntary, honorary basis. And already through 10 years, for our spins, if present, will these thousands of man (as, for example, in of England), which not leave sponsors in staunch supporter.

Have us, too, there is school FC "Shakhtar" many caramel and Hypnotizes, and buy ventilation systems for bananoedov :dontknow:

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KPIT wrote:

Dont want you obraziti but skladatsya priesthood, aoiea, ui Vi sam naproshutes aooe sponsor but happen, uia before you're caving. Willattend times vibachayus yeui you case obraziv!

The kind no scores. Agree, with hand could seem, that I want to impose on you be sponsor. But this only appearance of. The trouble is, that in our country at all there is no such willing be sponsors of. And not only in a fishing trip, and anywhere. As me see, need or a patron of the, which bored and he can do itself type safari, become it is important to World Championship in the rank chief delegation, photo op coming up for children and friends with known fishermen, to have schtupped enormous a nice thank-you entrepreneurship on wall. Or need seek everyone to an athlete his mini-sponsor, that more realistically and less difficult. On itself know, the second path closer you'll, although the first more beautiful. Under devoted first option, need to not beg money, and offer, type, lead. Realistically can on this impress the natives. The second option good with a large range known and good reputation.

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WWII option good with a large range known and good reputation.

Knock and you will open! :cool:

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Housing office, I would better these money sent in orphanage and homes nursing, and not onfishing sport. Here is for first I ready in the proposed way to "vote rublem." Forfishing sport - there is no. There is things significantly more important fishing :disappointed:

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duffy333 wrote:

housing office, I would better these money sent in orphanage and homes nursing, and not onfishing sport. Here is for first I ready in the proposed way to "vote rublem." Forfishing sport - there is no. There is things significantly more important fishing

Edited duffy333 (Today 20 :16: 05)

So and there is, in primarily on firms usually come khadataystva from childhood homes and others. Institutions, which
Incidentally have us exempted from taxation.

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duffy333 wrote:

I would better these money sent in orphanage and homes nursing

JURI wrote:

come khadataystva from childhood homes and others. Institutions

Men so who same dispute, in our country on any spheres need means. Simply live as in quagmire. And the only the exit this from whom beg money.: '(

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wrote:

Nu and if say company X (several companies), for right production and fulfillment (only fulfillment) goods for fishing on territory Ukraine, skooperiruyutsya and circle if you ain't project in support just fishing sport Ukraine, namely in every unit product (in its-) willability to lay say so:
- the price units of product until 50grn - 25kop;
- the price units of product from 50grn until 100grn - 50kop;
- the price units of product 100grn until 200grn - 75kop;
- ah and forth on magnifying.
Monthly cede data means in Fund FRSU and in have order FRSU should accountable before data companies for every entertaining Quiz.


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Nu himself producer or seller and pays from this same 1grn but part of this hryvnia remains on any, but as known our favorite state very likes decent taxpayers, and here recognized. And, look and taxes pay and charity engage in ah recognized good fellows.

Ah under this development fishing sport this is so, but have us very many and fishing press and they under the bargain without gonorarnogo location I think will not against, ah and in the future imagine, that the most the resonant television networks and magazines will stand in waiting lists on issuing broadcast. And there can be, that anywhere, but without attract producers and sellers, the fishing sport will plummet with its knees on position lying position.


As there have Confucian?

Know whether you, that club "Four Trojan" can utterly ranunculus city Vasyuki? I suggest: In Vasyukakh need to ambush international the chess tournament! On tournament about to descend lovers chess from around the world.
Hundreds of thousands of rich foreigners follows in Vasyuki! State will have urgently build
Rail the express and freeway Moscow - Vasyuki. The hotels-skyscrapers for guests, Palats chess, where will occur tournament, sverkhmoschnuyu a radio station, airport "Big Vasyuki", regular
Departures aircraft in all make ends of light, including Rio de Janeiro and Melbourne. You only imagine!
And think, that will, when tournament ends and all Visitors are gonna be gone? Inhabitants Moscow, stesnennye housing
Crisis, will run and flee in your city. Capital automatically Crosses in Vasyuki. Vasyuki pereimenovyvayutsya in new Moscow, Moscow - in Old Vasyuki! Chess thought will morph into a placing business science and good ways
Mezhduplanetnogo messages. Messages someone such same lungs,, as setting from Rybinska in Yaroslavl.
In Vasyukakh will mark the first in history mezhduplanetnyy the chess tournament! The first the chess tournament between teams Vasyukov and G-the Bear... so will end cogent victory vasyukintsev. Ur, comrades! "

Last edited by VIVA (Nov 30 2013 22:25:57)

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