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Oops yes let-God make, there is from what choose. And there whom as, yes under what conditions. In my opinion.
Simply again same, raspisyvayte conditions industrialized fishing, in any this kind of udilki (under length of his and as) shows themselves best, and as separately taken model is behaving in other, can extremely opposite conditions industrialized fishing.

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Feederal_74 wrote:

A have us these rods up will appear, I think, year through two (and the, under big question)

Sergei, you only tell and have you any from udilisch will through week! Himself shaken in the hands of Lite 3.00 and a medium 3.60, very this kneelength the quality of and nice stick, and fish fly-not worse shiman and camping on D.

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Oleg68 wrote:

Sergei, you only tell

No, you Perhaps Vitaliy with Seryoga Zoom 'th of mixed up, :glasses:

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Oleg68 wrote:

and fish fly-not worse shiman and camping on D.

And zhiguli drive not worse mazd and camping on D. :blush: - and at all soon from-for Proshek (brightness pro) they'll beat you more gang charlatans under yard its Majesty, Lenin Is Still Asleep themselves Preston innoveyshnz! :crazyfun:

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Distressed regions. Fiderer.!
Believe, to pursue analogies, such everything - need allow on both machines.
I so understand, that you for shrug our shoulders not small experience industrialized fishing fotonom 'pro', times you so confidently say? Share their impressions please

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worm wrote:

Z. Fiderer.!
Believe, to pursue analogies, such everything - need allow on both machines.
I so understand, that you for shrug our shoulders not small experience industrialized fishing fotonom 'pro', times you so confidently say? Share their impressions please

On machines traveled on both (with mazdami indeed affairs better idea do), but a hater the Russian automotive not am, even contrary, so as now use Volga 31105 (suits the size of the aaaaaeieea) and field Chevy (fishing) what about the fidernykh annologiy :tomato:. Wheel was be guessing where that this clean water joke (look 1980s). Experience as industrialized fishing a small (thanks in Ukrainian st and grew st the comrades who for consultation), brightness pro in the hands of not kept, but very like would and me to data rods up possessed best characteristics, so as not all conveniently on budget be to load up topovymi with sticks - time will tell! And in conclusion propose a to move on you as the me this more be

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Фидерер wrote:

not all conveniently on budget be to load up topovymi with sticks

If you bet you think, that a series of Sabaneev Foton Pro this budgetary a series of, then you deeply zabluzhdaeshsya. This series of is worth so much same, how many and a series of BEASTMASTER BX.

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Feederal_74 wrote:

This a series of is worth so much same, how many and a series of BEASTMASTER BX.

More expensive.

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D.S.I wrote:

Dorozhe.

All the more!

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Tell where on Ukraine can be potrusit this vesch?

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Satyr wrote:

statement. Where on Ukraine can be potrusit this vesch?

Nowhere!

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Satyr wrote:

statement. Where on Ukraine can be potrusit this vesch?

I would potrusil yes have. At that price even on photographs, in sight that the price the quality of on perform well :cool:

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Romeo wrote:

I would potrusil yes have. At that price even on photographs, in sight that the price the quality of on perform well

Roma, these udilki cost anything like that much almost as Speedmaster. For such money "the quality of" should be not simply on perform well, and impeccable. Yes,. You same spoke, that not claim to expensive rods up. :dontknow:

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Boev wrote:

Roma, these udilki cost anything like that much almost as Speedmaster. For such money "the quality of" should be not simply on perform well, and impeccable. Yes,. You same spoke, that not claim to expensive rods up.

Brightness pro saw on 5500 Br On nashinskie ?1,100 Grzywna ( :dontknow: adjust! If more expensive 1,200 Grzywna (- in skilled :crazyfun:

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Not know as there on models, but there is stick for 7 tyr. Hope, Russian colleagues have denounced credible information at prices.

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Romeo wrote:

brightness pro saw on 5500 Br On nashinskie ?1,100 UAH :dontknow: adjust! If more expensive 1,200 Grzywna (- in skilled :crazyfun:

If be more accurately, the 5500r. =1 375 UAH :crazyfun:

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7 100,000 rub = 1400 Grzywna (roughly. Spidmasterov on such prices clearly already long there is no :crazyfun: although and 1400 Grzywna (for feeder this would save you! And not it is important shimano this or something another!

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From 3700 until 5450 in staff the crib, though.
Under present course this from 945 until 1400 UAH

7 100,000 rub = 1400

This such a appreciation no! Phwoar course! :D

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WILDHUNTER wrote:

This is such a appreciation no! Phwoar course!

Geu I of habit on 5 Passoa :) ah would still I proved rights - 1400 maximal the price - spidmaster even near at that price not sells nowhere!

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Romeo wrote:

Speedmaster even near at that price not sells nowhere!

Seats need to know. :crazyfun: Although, for you this increasingly would still costly. :crazyfun:

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Boev wrote:

Although, for you this increasingly would still costly.

And not talk less.: '(Could would tactfully and shut up:' (Yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.

Last edited by Romeo (Dec 9 2010 07:47:24)

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Рыбак wrote:

Mish. Here is how would if close one eye and at all on fair. What cons there is have Proshnogo photon?

the fisherman
Sashas. Here is at all on fair: If I find have udilki substantial cons - I from it'm getting rid, not enleve Ideology times I enleve photons pro and not'm getting rid from them. Ah you realize ;) :D but I increasingly OK stuck, on your scheme ;)

SabaneevFoton pro

1- Complectaion:
And) Level and feature price commodities products (Hhardware)

Rings and holder of not Fuji, and Chinese production

http://daily-fishing.ru/images/cms/pages/2/foton_pro_feeder_9.jpg

I somewhere stumble on name brand (on every a hoop of - beat out the logo) but find with tilt not can.

http://matchfishing.ru/upload/iblock/6cc/ring.jpg

One thing as fact - very qualitatively sdelanyy product, rings with the subtle inserts, but under this sturdy and easy. 'll write it down this in plus, well that are worth not Fuji - for this improved would prestige udilki, but automatically substantially increased would price on him and proshki were would far not such available on price.

B) Level and feature the main labor parts of (a form), here need to do emphasis on is, that me should be understandable from what and as. Without who words or the very sense symbols. For example me will it is unclear that such carbon fibre 95Kh18 or rings from trigidrata carbon, absorbed by fusion selections female genital cells far salamanders in conditions complete with (conditional support).

No data on Deutschemark coal producer in his the catalog not leads. Can judge only subjectively: Letterheads for very are good. Possess very rapid no better indication (all, even relatively soft Lite). I until not heard reproaches specifically on forms from someone. – my personal subjective opinion - I exasperated their work more, than work their old spidmasterov shimano. Impose (expanding, the accuracy of) me under other equals gets the better, than spidikami, chtosobstvenno and caused a transition fully on proshki

2- technological component:
And) Quality assembly product.

Nowhere no podtyokov varnish, casting or something of the sort. Letterheads for perfectly aligned, joints strengthened, in the billet every knee - the Beautiful obligatory, to inward not worthy garbage. From available I have udilisch other firms such stoppers - only on Browning, (syntec II d??).

Unambiguously lacks decorative stoppers on komle rods up - 1,85 designed from neoprene, which over time can (and will) couldn't scratch about the stage / stones, and means will lose its external kind of. In the rest of the - without reproaches.

3- basic workers characteristics product:
And) technical opportunities (build, test)

On this moment in lineup 5 very of well-systems udilisch:

1. Light 300 / 40 - parabolik. Weight 130 gr. Good under-fishing subtler dog leashes but also, when need not allow the vanishing fish -, she knits trophy on 11 key from possible 10, amortiziruya every ryvochek. Often even Friction clutch in work include not account for thanks to amortizatsionnym properties letterhead.

Light / medium 300 / 60 - more rapid wand. Weight 140 "grape". Good for tempovoy industrialized fishing, allows quickly bore even a major adversary. Comfortable work with standard the feeding trough-cell until 60 grams. Under it catching on rate close distance there is reload allows enough strongly (as and all stick this series of), in particular himself personally catching with it with the feeding trough-cell 80 gr (+ grams 20 feed) on distance there is 25 meters.

Medium 360 / 80 - relatively the slow udilka. Weight 195 gr. An excellent choice under trough until 70 grams for the ponds, small rivers, semi-dormant channels. Again same, many run Vyazhuschaya ability to blanca.

Medium / d?? 360 / 100 - more rapid, more a powerful udilko. Weight 210 "grape". Kind of like a "a short Hevy" :) is famously analogy for cyprinids kept the ponds, also for industrialized fishing at manner. Good for neshirokikh, but rapid rivers, and also for seats where heavy trough not need to far hurl (narrow-minded style of on large rivers). Well transfers huge zakormochnye trough :)

medium/heavy 390/90. Weight 220 gr. Not too rapid, the easy, very dalnoboynoe, with sensitive vershinkami - in primarily, an excellent choice for lakes and water basins, and also as "examine alternative treatments for river a medium" there, where's more short rods up not mismanaging. On fall very actively exploited his on charges of - without reproaches. Peregruzhal until big from a pipe trough 100 gr - this weight order 140 grams - 500m until 40 meters catching bezproblemno.

B) the ergonomically products

In drawn lies very comfortably, but there is lack of: Lacks kryuchkoderzhatelya. Seemed would triviality, just wire loop, but on for competitions, when deal them out several udilisch, some discomfort causes.

In) visual supply ruggedness and the durability of the.

Visually seems devoted and fragile, but supply on ruggedness builds capacities for (already described higher - sorely tested on own experience)
The durability of the - say nothing not can, until all entire :)

4- the quality of product:

One cliche: Me, transmission USTRAIVAET

PS Don’t can not to mention about problem with vershinkami. Oftentimes the hear reviews from users, that of the needle done on latest a bamboo container, by themselves. Raze comment on not can, because on the eyes of my no one this not was happening, and my done until now until single all entire (except one poluntsovki, broken from-for perekhlyosta on the most the first a fishing trip on Championship Moscow - after this was cautious about visions and breakages more not was). Moreover, now in sale, how me known, emerged the second option vershinok - less fragile, with the other arrangement of rings.

Initially can be was call swing the absence of powerful vershinok for Hevy-options, but producer and here managed on time - pyatiuntsovki for this series of appeared in sale later only couple of months after, as have spoken about their need. Believe, that this is a big plus - the, as reacts on requests market. As only emerges request - producer here same his satisfy. Also and question with spare parts - always can be buy on "correct" price any knee was from any rods up. And after all situation different accented: Gateway machines slammed it in the doorjamb or fell during competition on stones. With substitute there is no problems. This I believe large plus. Modicum and rarely about it is happening, but includes there is confidence that all will'oc and not will have go in renovating.

Me bottom-line it: Cons for themselves in work these udilisch (if every of them apply borrowed situation) I not found. Personally me they be satisfied with by all measures and to change their any time soon I not intends to. With look forward await the exit Mr. Picker here and ekstrakhevi (promised to Spring) very curiously whatever they will.

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worm wrote:

вот вообще по честному: если я нахожу у удилки существенные минусы - я от неё избавляюсь

Миш,не обижайся,можно я спрошу,а от Шиманок,по этой причине отказался :question: =см.в цитировании.

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There is no, Sergei, I OK wrote:

'– my personal
Subjective opinion - I
Exasperated their work more, than
Work their old
Spidmasterov shimano. Impose
(Expanding, the accuracy of) me under
Other equals gets the better,
Than spidikami, chtosobstvenno and
Caused a transition
Fully on proshki '- here is this the reason :) although, some that from shimano I have remained - for example, pyatimetrovyy superekstrakhevik spidmaster, which I candidates in replacement not see :)

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Experienced samples Mr. Picker here and khevika pass drivers on water! :) Infa from first testing routines hands (salapin.magazine):

KhEVIK

In lineup “Proshek ” emerges coveted a long khevik-software. Simple for fishing gear such a class length 4.20 combine with Caligula form, the thickness of the finished have which just 13.2 mm) under weight 262 grams. Under this malchika on water show, that udilishche without problems mismanaged holding training in
130-150 g, although indeed I would not recommended initially handle feeder more, than 110-120 g full weight.

The only feeder from the entire series of “FOTON pro ”, which will have done Norfolk in diameter 3.0 mm, on plan will be completed with vershinkami in 1.5-2-3 and 4 ounces of, that overshadowing the all his basic area use of. Likely, mentor can be will to purchase still and untsovye done, and also even more tough, for the most various conditions industrialized fishing.

In work feeder is leading themselves sumptuously, confidently sends the heavy trough accurately
In the chosen point, with posylistostyu have this rods up, with largely complex build, all in order. After fishing with headings, 130-150 Mr. hands not are sore, and this about than something yes says. A small podleschik in palm normally is felt on the hook, despite capacities for weight trough. Done harsher, than have previous models, but for rivers as times such and need. For work same on distant made it on stiffy, hope, will the additional untsovaya vershinka.

Mr. Picker

Mr. Picker designed in standard version length 2,40m, under this possesses substitutable vershinkami in diameter 2.3 mm with all by previous models line of “FOTON pro. ”
Set of vershinok the planned 0.5-1-1.5-2 ounces of, are possible adjustment.

Considers tests have shown, that with making voluminous kormushkami common weight in 50 g Picker mismanaged, by sending their on 30 meters without special hardship. Tests on fish still ahead, but with certainty can be said, that such udilishche weight just 120 grams, on any caught fish hands over rybolovu so much sensations from vyvazhivaniya, how many only perhaps obtain "

(With) Dmitri Salapin

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Mishan, Heilongjiang that heard about value of pikerka and his build.

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worm wrote:

normal for fishing gear such a class the length of the 4.20 combine with Caligula form, the thickness of the finished have which just 13.2 mm) under weight 262 grams. Under this malchika on water show, that place it without problems deal with headings, in
130-150 g, although indeed I would not recommended initially handle feeder more, than 110-120 g full weight.

What is the price issue?

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Where? When? On than?
Perhaps this what I't seek :)

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worm wrote:

. With making voluminous kormushkami common weight in 50 g Picker mismanaged, by sending their on 30 meters without special hardship.

Mish, and fix Picker to heap making voluminous kormushkami common weight in 50 g? Wasn this importantly dignity Mr. Picker here?
All the more, when in lineup there is more suitable for these goals rods up :dontknow:.

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Feederal_74 wrote:

Mish, and fix Picker to heap making voluminous kormushkami common weight in 50 g? Wasn this importantly dignity Mr. Picker here?
All the more, when into a wide range there is more suitable for these goals rods up

Vital, betcha he and nekseyv 240 in frustrated time also tested :D
If would you saw, as Starnak their wand rapesis checking on the vibrancy - you would immediately understood sense doing :D likewise and with 150 grams for ektstrakhevi, on which written 120gr - so further and is faring row pro "newcomers, which he would not advised that.": :canthearyou: and I have him learned - a medium / Hevy 390 hard big stogrammovoy samodelkoy - and there weight is obtained grams under 120-130 - and shpulyal on 50 meters. And there white on greyest written - test 90 grams and anything! - Tej. That bends. But not it :cool: in general, a kind of Krash, Alpha Unit reporting-test :flag: :crazyfun:

WILDHUNTER wrote:

Mishan, Heilongjiang that heard about value of pikerka and his build.

Shock can be will on February 1917 the exhibition, think after it we going to get many neprezvzyatykh input (people certainly will otpisyvatsya about asked)
Until there is only here is such a fota :)

http://matchfishing.ru/upload/iblock/a2e/fpp.JPG

Incidentally, Mstislav, and what dozen nekseyv 240 have of various? Curiously compare :) (have this 8,64, if to believe vitals show a Starnaka)

Нипалас Тсор wrote:

Where is? When? On than?
Perhaps this what I't seek

In sale, think, will emerge in May. But this only – my assumption. Can and later. Himself await the not they’ll fix it. :)

Дима wrote:

by the price issue?

I don't know. Information on price there is no until. Can be try roughly time calculating what.
Ah, can foolish so count, but I arguing against footprint way:

In sticks level photon pro basic price makes coal.
Rings modicum and qualitative firm, but not Fuji, means not can cost very costly. Likewise here and katushkoderzhatel. And here is the best prepreg from Japanese made Tokyo / from vysokomodulnogo fibers cheaply cost not can by definition, means the main emphasis in value of makes he.
And truth, if stupidly share retail the cost of rods up in rub on his weight - get something type

3740 / 140 =2 dark (for lite-the medium)
5400 / 210 =2 5.7 (for a medium-Hevy 360)

Ah and the rest meaning lie close. I.e. than more grams coal - those more expensive, but in when measured on grams is obtained usrednyonno-equally. And than more weighs wand those the price in when measured on grams is obtained less, so as have more go quietly rings, cover and anything occupy greater part of prices. Means 420 must emerge not more 26.5 • 262 =6 943, ah let rudely 7,000 Br

Mr. Picker here, respectively, 27 • 120 =3 240 ah or so.

Of course, with established companies firms such calculation not gonna fly - there Tupperware, price markup for brand, tube, are profiteers again same. And here is with sabaneem, on the idea of, goes should :)

Although, not dispute, child pornography-counting course not and not on fix not is based :offtop: but I in it believe :D hope, that not'm wrong and the price not will "podnebesnoy" (though itself I in any case pick up volumes K :))

Text or: Although personally me like would, to serial pattern was just a smidge of a thicker in komle, (let even just a smidge of a lot heavier than me) because close parameters to brightness pro 390. Want something slightly more khevistoe, an ideal under trough-cells 120 grams. Although Salapin says, that this well analogy under such goal. And here is Picker accurately change not will and thank god - the that need to!

In general, 4-1-1 there is, let us wait't have serial numbers. Now, until upgrades have been, increasingly would still futile something to discuss. Consider, that will come out on market! :)

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