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Reel Dayva 3

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mikebond wrote:

Wu dayvy know only one coil, in describing which there is word feeder - Daiwa MATCH WINNER QDA. In this series of 4012 - the most fidernaya ("IMHO" s).


Disagree there is still TD S3550Fi, himself such'm using. Like ZOOM on the early enjoyed. I like, only not for khevika she. In my opinion
Description of
http://www.daily-fishing.ru/snasti/reel … -s_2553mi/

Last edited by Efiop (Sep 13 2015 19:05:26)

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Vadkh wrote:

. « exile on this Milky Way.

Zaydis on spinningline.ru, find the signature there Daiwa Freams 3515 PE-HA, and if there is credit, then witnessed price in 7130 rub, that on its current course fits 105 hover near $. The US, hard time delivering on Russia will-free laborers! :flag:

Last edited by Sandr (Sep 13 2015 22:01:39)

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Sandr wrote:

Daiwa Freams 3515 PE-HA

But on the fig six bought these, she on khevike pull not will. Have them same there is simply 4000A with normal peredatkoy.

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Vadkh wrote:

Sandr wrote (and) :D Aiwa Freams 3515 PE-HAA on fig six bought these, she on khevike pull not will. Have them same there is simply 4000A with normal peredatkoy.

Pull, thing very a subjective! One and the same coil from whom the not pulling, and from whom the - for unlovely soul!
Have regala transfer of 5.3 - not much less, and nothing, for me normally. Yes and on strained not so perishing often account for harvest. In general we shall-will see! But gather steam; less cut to disco and beking not shaking its! :cool:
But if suddenly that not so - going with khevika on a medium.

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Lovers of metodnoy and karpovoy is dedicated to :flag:
Dayva issued in light a new coil with baytrannerom on the basis of SS from West.
Katukher is called Karp 'Ism (who would have doubted)
http://www.daiwaweb.com/jp/fishing/item/reel/spin_rl/carpizm/index.html
The price in Japan roughly 210 -220 dollars.

Last edited by Vadkh (Sep 15 2015 18:19:23)

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She same on the European (English) market Daiwa Cast 'izm Br 25 - with RRP in $299.99 ?o.o. The first Joe moskom got under :tired:

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duffy333 wrote:

She same on the European (English) market Daiwa Cast 'izm Br 25 - with RRP in $299.99 ?The first Joe moskom got under
Signature avtoraLuchshe bad day on a fishing trip, than a good at work.

Who? Me seems this especially English taxation.

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Sandr wrote:

Who? Me seems this especially English taxation.

VAT (VAT) in Britain 20%, in Japan 8%.
And the difference in value of 299kh1,55 =4 63,5 bucks against 220 dollars. Taxes here not ????, local subsidiary dayvy prices is so apparently driving.
Fu finally the synched up. The spare shpulya is worth 240 bucks :crazyfun:

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Vadkh wrote:

Sandr написал(а):Кто? Мне кажется это особенности английского налогообложения.НДС (VAT) в Британии 20%, в Японии 8%.  А разница в стоимости 299х1,55=463,5 бакса против 220 долларов. Налоги тут не причем, местный филиал Дайвы ценами рулит.Фу наконец то врубился. Запасная шпуля стоит 240 бакинских
            Отредактировано Vadkh (Сегодня 20:16:47)

Разве НДС - единственный налог, который существует на островах? Не думаю....
Наверняка есть и налог на прибыль и с продаж ... и куча ещё чего.

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Vadkh wrote:

Dayva issued in light a new coil with baytrannerom on the basis of SS from West.
Katukher is called Karp 'Ism (who would have doubted)
http://www.daiwaweb.com/jp/fishing/item … index.html
The price in Japan roughly 210 -220 dollars.

Vadkh wrote:

Fu finally the synched up. The spare shpulya is worth 240 bucks

I.e. more than coil? :hobo: :O

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Олег 32 wrote:

What there is more than coil? :hobo: :O

Ah have them the difference in available spare shpuli :crazyfun:

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Sandr wrote:

Betcha he there is and tax on profits

This and there is VAT - value-added tax (up on the profits). Taxes with sales order 5-8% and in of England and in Japan.

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Vadkh wrote:

Sandr написал(а):Наверняка есть и налог на прибыльЭто и есть НДС - налог на добавленную стоимость ( читай прибыль) . Налоги с продаж порядка 5-8% и в Англии и в Японии.

Не хочется говорить о том, чего плохо знаю, но в Англии, импортные товары, которые меня интересовали, всегда
были дороже, чем на континенте. И дело скорее всего именно в особенностях внутреннего налогообложения(акцизах?).

Last edited by Sandr (Sep 15 2015 21:10:38)

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Sandr wrote:

And deal likely precisely in taxation (aktsizakh.

Ah not can be the difference in price from for excises be more than in two times.
Deal not in of England, and throughout Europe, there prices Dayvu virtually are equal. Here is recommended the price on Kastizm - 399evro against 180 dollars in Japan.
This Dayva in Europe prices is so apparently driving.

Last edited by Vadkh (Sep 15 2015 21:15:42)

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Vadkh wrote:

Sandr написал(а):И дело скорее всего именно в налогообложении (акцизах?).Ну не может быть разница в цене из за акцизов быть больше чем в два раза. Дело не в Англии, а во всей Европе, там цены на Дайву практически равны. Вот рекомендованная цена на Кастизм - 399евро против 180 долларов в Японии.Это Дайва в Европе цены рулит.
            Отредактировано Vadkh (Сегодня 21:15:42)

Ну, значит, это проблема  налогообложения в ЕС 8-) В США же дайва не гнет цены. Хотя они нисколько не беднее.
Нельзя же просто так взять и дискриминировать ценой! :nope:

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Vadkh wrote:

recommended the price on Kastizm - 399evro

So there less. Link:D

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Олег 32 wrote:

so there less. The reference :D

So in magazakh always cheaper, I same so and wrote "recommended the price" - the price on reform. Site.

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Sandr wrote:

In the US same dayva not oppression prices.

In the US 15 Ekzist is worth roughly on 100 dollars more expensive than in Japan, to example. Although in Japan taxes substantially more.

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Vadkh wrote:

So in magazakh always cheaper, I same so and wrote "recommended the price" - the price on reform. Site.

Yes I know minimalistic audio collages. Would still the difference prices with Japanese a substantial.

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Vadkh wrote:

Sandr написал(а):В США же дайва не гнет цены.В США 15 Экзист стоит примерно на 100 долларов дороже чем в Японии, к примеру.  Хотя в Японии налоги существенно больше.

Так это нормально, Дайва японский концерн, заплати какие то налоги в Японию, потом что то в США, ну и транспорт.

Last edited by Sandr (Sep 15 2015 22:07:17)

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Sandr wrote:

So this normal, Dayva Japanese concern, pay the what the taxes in Japan, then that the in the US, ah and transport.

Simply is content to explain, to no amount taxes not justify here and meadow position in Europe. This regional policy dayvy.

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Sandr wrote:

Nu, means, this the problem taxation in the EU In the US same dayva not oppression prices. Although they offered not poorer.
Cannot be same simply so take and to discriminate price!

Can be. Taxation in this case with coils nor the to nor under fix, but not on first place. Here all depends on marketing policy regional representation companies on every exemplified market. Here is and is obtained, that Japan - this one market, States - the other, England - the third, and Western Europe - the fourth. Differs as range of, so and often name absolutely identical products exempted and their the price. But as they account recommended retail price (RRP) for moreover or conjures market I notions not mean :dontknow: And why one and the same the coil have dayvy in Japan is worth doubled cheaper, than in of England, me all the more it is unclear :dontknow: However British,, judging by their forums,, too,. If anything under purchase in Japanese staff-stores (Rakuten, Plath and eaea with them) he except postal spending more nothing not pay.

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Vadkh wrote:

Sandr написал(а):Так это нормально, Дайва японский концерн, заплати какие то налоги в Японию, потом что то в США, ну и транспорт.Просто устал объяснять, чтобы никакие налоги не оправдывают конскую наценку в Европе. Это региональная политика Дайвы.

А как быть тогда с главным преимуществом капиталистической системы - конкуренцией? Для Шимано европейский рынок не закрыт. Да и другие производители есть, и если в топах они не конкуренты, то средне-нижнем сегменте вполне! Кстати, много смотрел фильмов о рыбалке во Франции, Испании - дайв в руках рыболовов не замечал. А ведь какая разница где делать норму прибыли - в Японии, США или Европе?

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Vadkh wrote:

. Simply is content to explain, to no amount taxes not justify here and meadow position in Europe. This regional policy dayvy.

How I understood, the market very a small. Role not plays. Hence and policy. Have Shimano, too, most.
In Europe (and have us, too,) mostly gets caught g-nom. And difference not see.

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The European market is enormous. 500 million chol. Practise fishing - huge-in people. When the share of market particular producer small - he been dumping, not puts of horse prices! Or market not need - if not need, why at all attend on this market?

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Sandr wrote:

When the share of market particular producer small - he been dumping, not puts of horse prices!


The old bike-enchanting landmark have marketers. One nebezyzvestnaya more company employed very known practitioner. "As increase sales our vodka in two times" - asked company. Specialist, through some time, gave the answer: "Increase its the cost of in three times." In companies all were in full resentful, but the cost of increased. Sales grew more, than in two times.

I, for example, in price formation already long nothing not understand.

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Sandr wrote:

the European market is enormous. 500 million chol. Practise fishing - huge his-in people.

Practise - yes. But from employees more 100 the euro / ?/ dollars - there is no. Even with their the level life. This I about industrialized fishing a white fish (feeder / match / Bichon Frise) know accurately. The lion’s share sales coils pripadaet precisely on segment "than cheaper, the better". And in this segment nor have dayvy, nor have dura-Ace nothing sane over here there is no. Ah this as on my taste of. And so there ascendant brands "second" and "third" leading, but raze not Dayva with dura-Ace. Ah, and prevents there more-less are decent dayvy-shimano this cup of tea either "pro" (often sponsored and so themselves their not buy), either quite a small stratum "aesthetes by" - either "advanced places", nabivshikh a Bible on purchase any Mr, either maniacs-shopping addicts.
Here is and is obtained, that Dayva with dura-Ace ranked political such a itself "premium-segment"on the European market. With the relevant volume sales. And the relevant natsenkami-nakrutkami per unit product. Not make any attempts on truth, but see this roughly so :dontknow:
In Europe have dayvy more-less well affairs only in Britain. And only because, that Daiwa UK there were long ranks larger share of coil market. But this did not prevent addition to Preston / Korumu ", to bite off" slice of this "pie" prompting a those, that have dayvy not was right fidernykh / match rails. Sacred place empty not case.

Text or: Oleg, incidentally, very vivid example of led relatively pricing and sales in premium-segment :cool:

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Oleg_GOR wrote:

Sandr написал(а):Когда доля рынка конкретного производителя мала - он демпингует, а не ставит конские цены!
            Старая байка-быль у маркетологов. Одна небезызвестная водочная компания наняла очень известного специалиста. "Как увеличить сбыт нашей водки в два раза" - спросила компания. Специалист, через некоторое время, дал ответ: "Увеличьте ее стоимость в три раза". В компании все были в полном недоумении, но стоимость увеличили. Сбыт вырос больше, чем в два раза.....
            Я, например, в ценообразовании уже давно ничего не понимаю.....

А вот это как раз байка!
Такой приём позволяет лишь кратковременно приподнять продажи, и то далеко не всегда!
Один раз попробовав " новинку" из любопытства, второй раз уже не возьмут - ибо дешевка за дорого!
Как говорится - "меня можно обмануть только один раз" :flirt:

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Sandr wrote:

The result being welcomed allows only and may window sales, and the far not always!
One times poprobovav "interesting" from curiosity, the second time already not take - for cheap for costly!

Why immediately "cheap for costly"? Quite there is no. Typically this qualitative product, very qualitative. But "correctly a later" "and so with mega-nakrutkoy. The most vivid example of the right marketing this Apple with their goods. And these "laurels" very many sleep not give.
At all the the approach, which you made, this approach of our of the buyer in "average" price segment maximum - such a of the buyer in primarily interested optimal parameters "the price / the quality of." And nothing bad in this there is no - I himself virtually so same'm a match to choice not only cordages. Ah often not want overpay in several times for gains something there "on 10%" :flirt: But have "client" in "Laksheri" -segmente quite the other approach to choice product, than in "average", and all the more "low" price range - "the roof-factor"(he same "picked up by the cops", he same "eksklyuziffnost") often on first place.

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duffy333 wrote:

The first Joe there is no. Typically this qualitative product, very qualitative. But "correctly a later" "and so with mega-nakrutkoy. The most vivid example of the right marketing this Apple with their goods. And these "laurels" very many sleep not give. At all the the approach, which you made, this approach of our of the buyer in "average" price segment maximum - such a of the buyer in primarily interested optimal parameters "the price / the quality of." And nothing bad in this there is no - I himself virtually so same'm a match to choice not only cordages. Ah often not want overpay in several times for gains something there "on 10%" But have "client" in "Laksheri" -segmente quite the other approach to choice product, than in "average", and all the more "low" price range - "the roof-factor" (he same "picked up by the cops", he same "eksklyuziffnost") often on first place.
Signature avtoraLuchshe bad day on a fishing trip, than a good at work.

Speech the commanded about friend: Were selling hacks give products (hailed) on an impressive realism price. Such a product full of the, little whom here also. On tovari changed label (but not content!) raised prices, and type all buy have become! :D
Eypl - this quite another.

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